Warp Spider Posted September 19, 2003 Posted September 19, 2003 If that farmer had finished off the second guy he probrably would have gotten off easier. A lawyer told me once that if you severely injure a person, you might as well finish the job, as "dead men tell no tales." Paladin - A holy beat down in the name of God!
Bdaze Posted September 23, 2003 Posted September 23, 2003 if someone came into my house and i bothered to shoot them, i wouldnt be concerned with beeing sued or going to jail. if theres a person who intends to do you harm, you take it as a serious threat on your life. jail sucks, and lossing money in a court case sucks, but not as much as dieing. anyway, i would either use my home made blunt sword (basically a peice of aluminium with a handle, about 4 mm. thick, but a blow from it is enough to break fingers/knock out, etc. if for some reason that was unavailable my next choice wouldbe my nunchaku. i am comfortable with them and i feel my skill level is high enough to take on an assailant. also, if those where unavialable i'd go for my handy snap off carpet cutter. once again, i am comnfortable with it. this is probably my favorite "tight budget" weapon. 3 for a dollar and they can cut flesh/muscle/clothing like a warm knife through butter. basically, the key is, anything im COMFORTABLE with. if you dont feel confident with a weapon, yyou're likely to perform poorly with it and then risk having it taken away and used on you. If in your journey you encounter God, God will be cut ~Hatori Hanso (sonny chiba)
JerryLove Posted September 24, 2003 Posted September 24, 2003 basically, the key is, anything im COMFORTABLE with. if you dont feel confident with a weapon, yyou're likely to perform poorly with it and then risk having it taken away and used on you.I've never managed to follow the logic. How come the guy with no experience with the weapon, and starting at the wrong end of it, is somehow considered likely to be able to take it away from you? This seems pre-facia silly, and I don't believe is borne out by any actual statistic. https://www.clearsilat.com
Warp Spider Posted September 24, 2003 Posted September 24, 2003 It's actually from a statistic, but it's a misleading one. Most people who draw a gun to defend themselves get disarmed and have the gun used against them. Anti-gun activists would have you believe that this is somehow a fault of the gun. In reality, it is because the person who is defending themselves tries to just discourage the attacker with the gun and doesn't have the balls to pull the trigger, even when the attacker grabs at the gun. I think that's where the myth about weapons getting taken away from you comes from. Paladin - A holy beat down in the name of God!
bigpopparob2000 Posted September 24, 2003 Posted September 24, 2003 Aren't nunchuks, katanas, tonfas, etc. illegal street weapons? My first instructor is a master with a 3-section staff; however, he was careful to point out if one ever used an exotic martial art weapon, like a 3 section staff or nunchukus, in a fight, he'd go to prison for 10 years. The only two choices I'd have in my room would be either my nunchukus or a baseball bat. I'd prefer to use my nunchuks b/c they swing faster than the bat and I could use them in a closed in space more effectively.
JerryLove Posted September 24, 2003 Posted September 24, 2003 There is no universal list of "legal" vs "illegal" because it varies by state and local... None of the things you listed are illegal to posess, and I'm unaware of any location where using something legal to posess for self defense is illegal... In some areas, carrying somethings "for the purpose" of using it as a weapon makes it illegal to carry. If you are even in FL, Stop by and I'll show you how to use a basebal bat in close-quarters https://www.clearsilat.com
Bdaze Posted September 24, 2003 Posted September 24, 2003 basiaclly what i was trying to say is all weapons (except guns) at close range require some skill and are often relied on to often i think i phrased that incorrectly in my original post. i meant to say if you are not comfortable with the weapon then you wil rely too much on it and neglect other techniques or tactics you know. say you pick up your nunchucks that you had hanging on the wall cause you thought they where cool (hypothetic) and you atqacked the person, screwed up and hit yourself in the head (pretty easy to do if you have no skill with a weapon). you have just done more hamr then good and are not in a possition to stop someone. that was just an example, but im basiaclly saying if you have no other weapons available, i'd probably rather go with my hands. im comfortbale with those. of course i'd use an equalizer like a pillow or sheet to throw in their face while i atack them. If in your journey you encounter God, God will be cut ~Hatori Hanso (sonny chiba)
Warp Spider Posted September 24, 2003 Posted September 24, 2003 basiaclly what i was trying to say is all weapons (except guns) at close range require some skill and are often relied on to oftenI don't think it's fair to say that using a gun requires no skill. I mean, granted, anyone can point the thing at a person and pull the trigger, which does work pretty good, (but is not ideal) but by the same logic anyone can point a sword at someone and stab, which also works pretty good. (but is not ideal) Certainately I'll agree that guns are an easier weapon to become proficient with, but at close ranges I think a person with no weapons experience would be equally effective with a gun, or a sword, or a bo staff, or a sai, or what-have-you. Paladin - A holy beat down in the name of God!
Bdaze Posted September 25, 2003 Posted September 25, 2003 but at close ranges I think a person with no weapons experience would be equally effective with a gun, or a sword, or a bo staff, or a sai, or what-have-you. hah, yeah, except a bullet moves at slightly under the speed of sound, it can't be blocked and the motion required to use it is the absolute minimum. if a 9 year old boy with no training what so ever can shoot and kill a 9 year old girl then i'd say it's pretty conclusive evidence that a gun is the easiest and most effective close range weapon. i doubt a small child could do the same with a sword, bo, or sai your chances of losing a fight with a gun against an unarmed or minimally armed (knife, club, etc.) assailant are almost none existant (assuming the assailant isn't a wizard ) anyway, i dont want this to get off track. i think i've explained my point. If in your journey you encounter God, God will be cut ~Hatori Hanso (sonny chiba)
JerryLove Posted September 25, 2003 Posted September 25, 2003 There seem to be some completely erronious expectations here. You want a weapon easier to employ at close range than a firearm? OK, a kitchen knife. You think that at contact range pistol vs knife you will survive without training? Think again. You don't think a small child with a knife can kill another small child? You are deluding yourself. A firearm against an opponent out of contact range, but nearby is a relatively simple and very effective weapon... At touching range, so is a knife; and most people are well accustomed to how a knife operates... put it in front of you and stab anything that gets in easy reach. https://www.clearsilat.com
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