shotokanwarrior Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 I still see no data just rambling. Where Art ends, nature begins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenStar Posted December 20, 2003 Share Posted December 20, 2003 In a competition fight, karateka would be taken to school by the Muay Thai guys, simply because the MT guys are trained to fight in the ring. On the street, karate's more brutal techniques would give it a great advantage over the MT guys. not necessarily. MT will carry over very well in the street. And, knowing more techniques, doesn't mean anything...there's already a current thread on that, so I won't get into it here. Also, Kyokushinkai guys are awesome in competition. What about MT do you consider non brutal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aznkarateboi Posted December 20, 2003 Share Posted December 20, 2003 that is just your opinion not a fact. just like I have an opinion. style does not matter. you can have 3 styles boxing beats karate. but karate beats kung fu, but kung fu beats boxing......so which style mattered????? NONE. each person had a good and bad day. I think it's a pretty well accepted fact that Muay Thai is better than aznkarateboi's gumming style. Therefore, not all styles are equal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Monkey Posted December 20, 2003 Share Posted December 20, 2003 but i thought we were talking in the context of established martial arts... post count is directly related to how much free time you have, not how intelligent you are."When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aznkarateboi Posted December 20, 2003 Share Posted December 20, 2003 i'm just giving an example. i don't think being established suddenly makes it equal to other martial arts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kotegashiNeo Posted December 24, 2003 Share Posted December 24, 2003 I have a black belt in goju ryu but trained as a kick boxer for six years and I would say if I wanted to beat someone up, kickboxing defend myself karate. maybe oversimplified maybe not? Kisshu fushin oni te hotoke kokoro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thuggish Posted December 25, 2003 Share Posted December 25, 2003 i dunno- my thing is, in a fight, someone beats the other person down in the end. its you agains him (hopefully not them) winner take all loser takes a beating. muay thai is the most effective way to kick the crap out of something... and any muay thai fighter with half a brain will know things that make karate so good (such as punching vital areas, kicking the knee, etc etc.) thing is though, the thai boxer is likely more able to punch and kick you, HARD, and take punches and kicks, and they have more experience with realistic fight situations. without getting into grappling related stuff, thats what wins fights on the street. a broken arm throws no punches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venezolano Posted December 25, 2003 Share Posted December 25, 2003 i agree with Thuggish Valencia - Venezuela. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenStar Posted December 25, 2003 Share Posted December 25, 2003 Yeah, pretty much what thuggish said. However, kotegashi brought up an excellent point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kotegashiNeo Posted December 25, 2003 Share Posted December 25, 2003 All styles good none superior when life is threatened, trainning not style dictate results. If mind ready to defend it will, if not, then no style will help. Harsh muay thai trainning will teach you to destroy. Harsh Karate trainning teach you responsibilty of such power. Defeating someone is easy compared to the reality of conquering oneself Kisshu fushin oni te hotoke kokoro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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