searcher Posted August 27, 2003 Posted August 27, 2003 I am hoping that someone amongst the many kobudo-ka can help me with some information on the following Bo Kata: 1.) Sakugawa no kon 2.) Shirataru no kon 3.) Soeoshi no kon The information I am trying to get is the number of moves in each form and The level of complexity of each. I am trying to find 1 or 2 more Kata to compliment my existing Kata. They are: Shushi no kon no dai Tokumine no kon Urashi no kon Yonegawa no kon Any help anyone can provide would be very much appreciated. Thanks. "let those who shed blood with me be forever known as my brother."
AndrewGreen Posted August 27, 2003 Posted August 27, 2003 Depends on who teaches it to you. Kata can vary a lot amongst different lineages. Andrew Greenhttp://innovativema.ca - All the top martial arts news!
Sauzin Posted August 27, 2003 Posted August 27, 2003 So, that’s a tough one. Shirataru no kon I am not familiar with. Soeoshi no kon I do know. I practice from Seikichi Odo’s Okinawan Kenpo lineage and we have a Soeoshi no kon ichi and ni version of that kata. Good kata, about medium on the complicated scale. It has lots of techniques in which you spin yourself around, some nice hand changes and swings, and at least one great jamming maneuver. Ichi has about 40 moves, ni has about 43. Sakugawa no kon is an awesome kata. The most complicated I do in my opinion. We have a Ichi and Ni version of this as well. Lots of low stance work, underhand strikes, slip strikes, disarms, throws, and horse stance work. Several complicated hand changes. Unless you are very, very, very skilled or learning a dummied down version you won’t be able to learn this one from a tape or a book. Ichi has about 60 moves in it Ni has less maybe 58. I wish I could refer you to someone to learn them. I would not suggest learning either from a tape or a book as there are little things that you can’t pick up. Try to get in touch with someone locally who practices “Okinawan Kenpo” or “Ryukyu Hon Kenpo” if you can. Or come down here to Boise, Idaho and I would be happy to show them to you. -Paul Holsinger The only two things that stand between an effective art and one that isn't are a tradition to draw knowledge from and the mind to practice it.
searcher Posted August 28, 2003 Author Posted August 28, 2003 Sauzin, Thank you for the information. I have studied the Isshin-ryu kobudo and Taira Shinken liuneage of kobudo for about 5 years. The kobudo training I Started after several years of training in varying styles of kara-te and I am looking to add some variety to my bo knowledge. The information you provided is very helpful. "let those who shed blood with me be forever known as my brother."
kataman Posted August 29, 2003 Posted August 29, 2003 searcher:It good to know that other poeple love and practice kobudo,i am in a groupe of kobudo that learnd bo and other weapons,in our line of bo kata we have 1st shoun no kon if i remember it wright they are 4 diferente form that the one i do in tournement,2nd we have shushi no kon dai 54 moves,shusi no kon sho it a smaler version of the other one 26 moves and we have sakugawa no kon which is 63 moves I don't train for belt color I train to survive on the street
SaiFightsMS Posted August 29, 2003 Posted August 29, 2003 One thing that might cause a difficulty in learning a bo kata from a different system is that the isshin ryu stances are a bit different that some of the stances in say Sakagawa no kon. I ran into the opposite problem when I learned tokumine no kon.
Cheradenine Posted September 9, 2003 Posted September 9, 2003 Does anyone know of any downloadable Bo Kata videos from anywhere?
SaiFightsMS Posted September 9, 2003 Posted September 9, 2003 There was one of ten tyu no kon a while back but the web site that had it is no longer hosting video's.
Sho-ju Posted September 16, 2003 Posted September 16, 2003 http://www.shoryukan.com/Topics/Skills/kobudo.html Bo
Shorty Posted November 2, 2003 Posted November 2, 2003 Does anyone know the bo staff kata Cho Un No Con? I know the first half of the kata..up to the point where you drop to one knee.. Help!! Green Belt-Shotokan Karate
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