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Do you believe in Ki?  

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  1. 1. Do you believe in Ki?

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Here we will discuss on Ki and any related thing, and I would like them to answer a subject:

 

 

 

Does the karate have influence of the knowledge of Ki?

 

 

 

thank you.

"Someday, I'll be the most powerfull jedi ever..."

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I don't. I believe in proper body mechanics.

 

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Power can be described in three ways:

 

Explosive power - Explosive power is the ability to exert maximum force in one or a series of dynamic acts. Example: Breaking a board with a punch.

 

Static power - Static power is the maximum force a person can exert for a short period. Example: Bench press.

 

Dynamic Power - Dynamic power is the ability to exert muscular force repeatedly or continuously over time. Example: Heavy bag workout.

 

WHERE DOES IT COME FROM?

 

Power is derived from muscular ability. The human body contains over 400 muscles that can be broken in two classes: smooth and striated. Smooth muscles are those that perform the involuntary functions of the body like circulation and digestion. Striated muscles are those that can be voluntarily contracted, such as the muscle groups in the arms and legs. These muscles are the source of power.

 

Slow and fast twitch muscle fibers

 

Striated muscles are made up of two types of fibers: slow twitch and fast twitch. Slow twitch fibers are designed for activity that must be sustained over a long time like distance running. They have a high capacity for aerobic energy production and can remain active for a long time while producing relatively small amounts of lactic acid. This is important because lactic acid build-up in the muscle tissue causes the muscle to fatigue and eventually renders it unable to continue working. Low levels of lactic acid mean more capacity for work. People who have a high percentage of slow twitch fibers excel at endurance activities.

 

Conversely, people with a high percentage of fast twitch fibers excel in explosive strength activities. Fast twitch fibers have a great capacity for anaerobic energy production, which allows them to produce intense power and speed of contraction. This intensive work also causes them to accumulate large amounts of lactic acid and fatigue quickly. (For a definition of aerobic and anaerobic, see "Chapter 9: Endurance")

 

Based on this, the answer to developing power seems obvious - increase the percentage of fast twitch muscle fibers in your body. Unfortunately, this is not possible. The ratio of fast and slow twitch muscle fibers is determined early in life and cannot be markedly changed. Studies have shown that distance runners have high percentages of slow twitch fibers and sprinters have high percentages of fast twitch fibers. Yet it has been concluded that the activity in which they participate is not responsible for this phenomenon. Instead, it is believed that distance runners take up endurance sports because they naturally excel in this area. In the same respect, others are naturally fast and gravitate toward the speed and power oriented sports in which they excel.

 

Although you cannot change the ratio of muscle fibers, you can improve what you have. In the average person, slow and fast twitch muscle fibers are generally intermingled, with a higher percentage of fast twitch fibers present. Through training, you can improve the metabolic efficiency of either type of muscle fiber. By training for explosive strength you stress the fast twitch muscle fibers repeatedly, causing them to become stimulated and teaching them to work more efficiently.

 

Muscle movement

 

Besides understanding the types of muscles you have, you must have an understanding of how your muscles work. There are two basic ways that force is generated and controlled. The contraction of a muscle is determined by the types of muscle fibers recruited and the firing rate of the neurons within the muscle.

 

First, let's look at how your body decides which types of muscle fibers to use. The voluntary contraction of a muscle begins with the recruitment of the smallest units of slow twitch muscles. These motor units (muscle fiber groups) have the lowest response threshold, create the least amount of tension and are the most resistant to fatigue. As muscle tension increases, more motor units are recruited from the larger fast twitch fibers. As tension continues to rise, fewer motor units need to be activated because the large fast twitch units contain more plentiful and more powerful muscle fibers. But because these large fibers are the ones that generate peak tension in the muscle, they fatigue quickly and require more recovery time.

 

As a practical illustration, compare the difference in muscle fatigue you feel when walking and when sprinting. If you walk one mile or sprint one mile, you are using the same basic muscle groups over the same distance. But few people can sprint even half the distance they can walk before their legs simply refuse to go any farther. Walking requires less tension in the muscles and therefore relies on the low threshold, low tension motor units. Sprinting, on the other hand, requires maximum muscle tension for every stride. The muscle fibers' ability to produce maximum tension repeatedly over long periods of time is poor and the legs tire quickly.

 

Besides the amount and type of muscle fibers recruited, muscle tension and speed of contraction is determined by the rate at which the skeletomotor neurons stimulate the muscle fibers. The more frequently the neurons fire, the more tension that is produced in the muscle. At peak tension, the neuron fires so rapidly that the muscle fiber is unable to relax from one stimulation to the next. The result is the generation of maximum force.

 

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You can say whatever you want. I've seen no touch knockouts in Ryu Kyu Kempo and experienced it first hand. Go do the same, wake-up on the floor and then come tell me what you think.

A block is a strike is a lock is a throw.

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You can say whatever you want. I've seen no touch knockouts in Ryu Kyu Kempo and experienced it first hand. Go do the same, wake-up on the floor and then come tell me what you think.

 

Feel free to believe in what you want, I rather put faith in what I know can be done with my own hands. OSU!

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Posted
I believe in it. My friend is like a total wackjob and he said that if he focusses then he can throw air and break ever bone in someones chest. I laughed at him.
Posted
yeah but more of a emotional control than a magic power.

(General George S. Patton Jr.) "It's the unconquerable soul of man, and not the nature of the weapon he uses, that ensures victory."

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I'm with Sho-ju, word for word. There are different types of power we produce. I could outlift a world class track runner, but he can out run me without breaking a sweat. I'm on the fence with Ki, but I'm leaning FAR toward "no."
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I believe in Ki, or the internal energy of a person. At least in terms of different types of power, I would argue that all described above are expressions of Ki.

 

And don't say no one has ever been knocked out with Ki. I've seen a one inch punch send a 250 pound man twenty feet backwards into a tree.

"The true master avoids the fight."

Shodan - Uechi-Ryu Karate

Brown Belt - Zen Budo Ryu JJ, Yoshinkan Aikido

Posted

I do and I don't.

 

I believe that no touch knock outs etc. can be done, but I don't believe that it is due to any kind of mystical life force or inexplicable energy.

 

I believe that "ki" is a collection of things like focus, control, muscle control etc.

Smile. It makes people wonder what you've been up to.

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I didn't say that it was mystical or magic. I just said that I've seen and experienced a no touch knock out. Your body happens to run on electrical current and with training you can affect that current in different ways. There's nothing mystical about it. How does your nervous system send and receive messages? Through electro-chemical impulses. It's worth taking a look at and not dismissing out of hand.

A block is a strike is a lock is a throw.

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