robodjs Posted August 8, 2003 Share Posted August 8, 2003 Who here does oyama karate? what do you think of it? how long does it take to get a black belt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aznkarateboi Posted August 8, 2003 Share Posted August 8, 2003 Its called kyokushin karate, buddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robodjs Posted August 8, 2003 Author Share Posted August 8, 2003 who goes to an oyama karate dojo, same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knockdown Posted August 8, 2003 Share Posted August 8, 2003 what is it that you want to know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knockdown Posted August 8, 2003 Share Posted August 8, 2003 what is it that you want to know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robodjs Posted August 8, 2003 Author Share Posted August 8, 2003 just what did you think of it in general? is it good for self defense? how long does it take to get a blackbelt. (and please i'd like to know how long it takes to get a black belt because i am a believer that you start learning at a bb, so please don't tell me that i should just focus on learning the art it self instead of attaining belts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knockdown Posted August 8, 2003 Share Posted August 8, 2003 Well, I can answer as best as I can from my perspective. of course I love Kyokushin, and World Oyama at its core is very similar. Good hard style. no point fighting. no tag. * Kumite is knockdown oriented. * Kihon is kinda sorta similar to Shotokan * Kata start out similar to Shotokan, and then progress to more Goju-Based type forms (Tensho, Sanshin, Seienchin) Training will be hard. you will sweat a lot. you will get bruised up. you will get hit, and you will hit other people. They might break you in progressively, or not, depends on the Dojo. The syllabus will be large, with many kata, many kihon, and lots of stuff to remember and eventually do well. to get to Shodan will take (Approx) 4-5 years IF you train consistently and practice A LOT. Not many people make it to Shodan in these types of styles. it can take 5-10 year too, depends on your instructor. Sure it is good for self defense. But like many systems based on Classical martial arts it will take a while. If you go train 3-6 months not much will sink in. If you stick around 3-6 years, you will learn a great deal of self defense. if you want straight self defense and want it quick – sign up for Krav Maga and skip most forms of karate. if you are in it for the long haul, World Oyama would be a fine style. Most classes will likely be an hour and a half and meet 2-3 X a week. To get your shodan (assuming you meet all other requirements), you will probably have to run all the kihon you know by then, run the 20+ kata you will know, do a bunch of board breaking, demonstrate self defense, and fight probably 10 fresh opponents (usually equal or higher ranks) at full contact – knockdown rules. I would suggest watching a few classes and see if this is how you want to train. Some schools will emphasize fighter training, and not spend as much time on the fundamentals or on Kata interpretation. depends. of course you will also learn some Kobudo along the way. World Oyama Karate is a good old Full Contact Japanese style karate. Check out a couple of their videos, read their book “Perfect Karate”. Their next tournament is not for a while yet (Dec) but you could check that out too. http://www.brooknet.com/oyama/OYAMA_Calendar.html I have a friend who trains at their headquarters in NY, and they are very happy with the training they are receiving. good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robodjs Posted August 8, 2003 Author Share Posted August 8, 2003 thanks for the info. sounds like a good style for me. what weapons do they teach? and do they teach unarmed defenses against modern weapons? (guns, kinves etc.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knockdown Posted August 8, 2003 Share Posted August 8, 2003 As I mentioned in the other thread you started: "they include some weapons training such as Nunchaku, Sai and Bo" for gun and knife, most likely it is included in their self defense training. I would imagine it is not overly emphasized though. you could find out quickly from the Sensei of the Dojo near you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mamakorea Posted August 8, 2003 Share Posted August 8, 2003 I do WOKO... Where are you? They have dojo's around the world so if there is a dojo near you, just go and sit in on a class... Do or do not, there is no try... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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