Tiger1962 Posted September 10, 2008 Posted September 10, 2008 thanks - i will definitely do my homework ! "Never argue with an idiot because they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." ~ Dilbert
joesteph Posted September 10, 2008 Posted September 10, 2008 aguazhang is a style which is based around walking in circles. . . . Contact in bagua consists of strong movements- most applications have linear forms. What I did perform in my short Bagua introduction was the circle-walking, with the palms to the center of the circle where my opponent would be. I attended a presentation about Bagua that was mostly an American speaking about when he lived with a Bagua master "in China" (it was in the '90s, so it may or may not have been Taiwan). His single demonstration of a Bagua technique is something you could spend months on, circling around his opponent, palming down ("massaging" as he called it) the opponent's protective arm while smacking him on top of his head, and the opponent just couldn't get an arm up to protect himself without it being palmed down, so his head kept getting smacked; even trying to turn away was no escape, as the Bagua presenter/attacker would circle around him--this way and that--to deliver more "massages" and head smacks. The friend I attended the presentation with had a Taiji instructor who introduced him to some Bagua, and whose explanation of the "palm" in Bagua was anything from the fingertips to the elbow to whack at your opponent. My friend showed me a move his instructor had showed him; it had a Bagua strike which was like a forearm slam (the outer side of the forearm) against the side of your head. ~ JoeVee Arnis Jitsu/JuJitsu
Kajukenbopr Posted September 12, 2008 Posted September 12, 2008 aguazhang is a style which is based around walking in circles. . . . Contact in bagua consists of strong movements- most applications have linear forms. What I did perform in my short Bagua introduction was the circle-walking, with the palms to the center of the circle where my opponent would be. I attended a presentation about Bagua that was mostly an American speaking about when he lived with a Bagua master "in China" (it was in the '90s, so it may or may not have been Taiwan). His single demonstration of a Bagua technique is something you could spend months on, circling around his opponent, palming down ("massaging" as he called it) the opponent's protective arm while smacking him on top of his head, and the opponent just couldn't get an arm up to protect himself without it being palmed down, so his head kept getting smacked; even trying to turn away was no escape, as the Bagua presenter/attacker would circle around him--this way and that--to deliver more "massages" and head smacks. The friend I attended the presentation with had a Taiji instructor who introduced him to some Bagua, and whose explanation of the "palm" in Bagua was anything from the fingertips to the elbow to whack at your opponent. My friend showed me a move his instructor had showed him; it had a Bagua strike which was like a forearm slam (the outer side of the forearm) against the side of your head. the walking is a bit more complicated than just walking in a circle - the feet must turn in a certain way, the torso has to be turned to the center of the circle so the arms protect you from the front, not your side, there's also alignment issues(so u dont hurt your knees and/or back). and yeah, depending on the style of the baguazhang system, there are a variety of finger jabs, throws, chin na, strikes, elbows, knees, kicks, and every style has its own trademark moves from footwork to combat strategy. <> Be humble, train hard, fight dirty
Mistassailant5 Posted June 6, 2010 Posted June 6, 2010 Baguazhang/Baguaquang (yes they are different) are both very effective styles, especially against untrained fighters, and even trained fighters alike. Not many people are used to fighting someone who consistently moving in a circular motion which many arts can not employ very well so the circle walking puts you at a huge advantage. I am not a fighter, I am a guardian.
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