sansoouser Posted July 30, 2003 Posted July 30, 2003 I was just wondering how Bruce Lee taught people JKD if it was not a style. How do you teach something without knowing what it is? It's like teaching how to hit a hockey puck but saying it's not hitting one. The amateur shoots his hands out ferociously, but lacks any true power. A master is not so flamboyant, but his touch is as heavy as a mountain.
Drunken Monkey Posted July 30, 2003 Posted July 30, 2003 what he meant by not a style was that you don't imitate/copy the way he did things because that was his own way. it was up to you to find your own way of doing things. his method was not a style in which you copy what your teacher shows you because he wanted people to realise that not all techniques work for everyone. part of the training was for you to go and find what did work for you. post count is directly related to how much free time you have, not how intelligent you are."When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite."
sansoouser Posted July 30, 2003 Author Posted July 30, 2003 then how did he teach? The amateur shoots his hands out ferociously, but lacks any true power. A master is not so flamboyant, but his touch is as heavy as a mountain.
Drunken Monkey Posted July 30, 2003 Posted July 30, 2003 you have to understand that his method was very much a work in progress. i'm going to guess he began by teaching "old style" moves. post count is directly related to how much free time you have, not how intelligent you are."When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite."
sansoouser Posted July 30, 2003 Author Posted July 30, 2003 if he taught you to punch, it was his new " styles " way of punching so in essence it was a style. It's impossible to teach someone without calling it someones way or somethings way. Everyone develops their own style, so if someone teaches you they call it for example a wing chun back fist, but the person has developed a way of doing it that suits him best, so in a way bruce would have accomplished his goal after his students developed their own way of doing the techniques. The amateur shoots his hands out ferociously, but lacks any true power. A master is not so flamboyant, but his touch is as heavy as a mountain.
Drunken Monkey Posted July 30, 2003 Posted July 30, 2003 no. he would you show you how a style did it, then maybe another, then another. you then picked what worked for you. and another thing, you have to go back to the time when he was developing his training method. at that time if you learnt a martial art, you were probably being taught it in a very fixed way (as in do as i do). he realised and attempted to tell us that there shouldn't be a fixed way. post count is directly related to how much free time you have, not how intelligent you are."When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite."
sansoouser Posted July 30, 2003 Author Posted July 30, 2003 no. if he taught you, it was his style. The amateur shoots his hands out ferociously, but lacks any true power. A master is not so flamboyant, but his touch is as heavy as a mountain.
Drunken Monkey Posted July 30, 2003 Posted July 30, 2003 so if i taught you wing chun, it wouldn't be wing chun, it would my own style? so you're not really learning san soo, you're learning his kung fu style? post count is directly related to how much free time you have, not how intelligent you are."When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite."
delta1 Posted July 30, 2003 Posted July 30, 2003 I was just wondering how Bruce Lee taught people JKD if it was not a style. How do you teach something without knowing what it is? The following is an excerpt from a statement made by a Kenpoist who knew Bruce Lee personally and trained with him, Mr. Tom Bleeker. "My personal experience was that Bruce Lee was an exceptional teacher, but mainly of experienced martial artists. Put simply, he just didn't have the patience to teach new students. He did, however, have a long list of prominent black belts who sought out his teaching, many of whom were world champions at the time. What I personally found to be Lee's greatest teaching asset was the he was incredibly skilled at pointing out what was wrong with an individual's martial art. By that I mean he was quite skilled at keying in on what didn't or wouldn't work as opposed to what did or would work." Another interresting quote, by Mr. George Dillman, in an interview in the Sep. issue of Black Belt Mag: "Bruce had a write up in a magazine and it sounded as if he wanted everyone to stop doing kata. ... I asked him specifically in 1972why he would make such a comment about forms, and he said:'George, that was a misquote. I didn't say that everyone didn't have to do forms. I think the forms are the alphabet. I think the forms are the printing.You learn the alphabet at school and you learn to print, then you learn words and then paragraphs and you no longer go back to the alphabet even though you are writing it. You learn how to write sentences and paragraphs.' " Freedom isn't free!
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