Treebranch Posted August 1, 2003 Author Share Posted August 1, 2003 I thought you were talking about this particular post. That's why I got a bit defencive, my bad. "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience.""Lock em out or Knock em out" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Monkey Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 it's ok dun worry about it but i'm sure you know what i mean, yeah? post count is directly related to how much free time you have, not how intelligent you are."When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treebranch Posted August 1, 2003 Author Share Posted August 1, 2003 Yes I know all too well. Cool Brotha. "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience.""Lock em out or Knock em out" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirves Posted August 2, 2003 Share Posted August 2, 2003 well, they were quite strict in china but then much of that was purely political and really was about "my school is better than your school". Yes, but they were all styles of kung fu (or wu shu). They only fought over which style was best. Problem is that in Japan there wasn't one single word for fighting, but several. Some people just said they trained in taijutsu fighting, other said they trained in jujutsu fighting. Basically they all meant they were studying bujutsu fighting. Just used a different word. But in china they had only kung fu/wu shu/quan as words for fighting arts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenStar Posted August 3, 2003 Share Posted August 3, 2003 well, most martial arts come from somewhere and in many cases, it is anothr form of an older art. for example, okinawan karate originates from white crane kung fu which itself originates from shaolin kung fu which in turn originates from ancient buddhist chi kung. like the old chinese saying goes, all kung fu comes from shaolin, which in essence, does. that quote is not true. shuai chiao predates shaolin by like 1,000 years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenStar Posted August 3, 2003 Share Posted August 3, 2003 Sumo was never a martial art. It is purely a ritual sport in Shintoism, the native religion of Japan. I kinda already answered this in another post, but... but it is a martial sport, correct? and it does predate JJ, so what he says is still correct... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenStar Posted August 3, 2003 Share Posted August 3, 2003 well, they were quite strict in china but then much of that was purely political and really was about "my school is better than your school". Yes, but they were all styles of kung fu (or wu shu). They only fought over which style was best. Problem is that in Japan there wasn't one single word for fighting, but several. Some people just said they trained in taijutsu fighting, other said they trained in jujutsu fighting. Basically they all meant they were studying bujutsu fighting. Just used a different word. But in china they had only kung fu/wu shu/quan as words for fighting arts. Good post. I was gonna say that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goshinman Posted August 3, 2003 Share Posted August 3, 2003 that quote is not true. shuai chiao predates shaolin by like 1,000 years Great job pointing that out SS. Shuai Chiao is the oldest and arguebly the most effective style of kung fu out there. I have learned all I can about it from studying the videos that David Ck. Lin puts out but I have not formally trained in it becasue they have very tight restrictions about who they train in combat shuai chiao. But I hear the training is pretty brutal, does anyone know if this is true? Tapped out, knocked out, or choked out...Take your pick.http://jujitsu4u.com/http://www.combatwrestling.com/http://gokor.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenStar Posted August 3, 2003 Share Posted August 3, 2003 it's true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Monkey Posted August 4, 2003 Share Posted August 4, 2003 the temple or the religion practiced in the temple? in either case it just goes back to my point, there is no definitive starting/first martial art. in theory, it is just some caveman somewhere deciding that if he puts his arm in a certain way he blocks better in fights. that would've been the first martial art. or if you want to get philosophical then the first martial art would be the idea of "maybe i can fight better if i do some planning" post count is directly related to how much free time you have, not how intelligent you are."When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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