Warp Spider Posted July 24, 2003 Posted July 24, 2003 Getting your ears boxed kind of hurts, but I highly doubt it would deafen a person. I don't believe that the disorientation is due to any pressure differential, the air will escape because the hands aren't going to make a perfect seal against your ears. I highly suspect that the disorientation and discomfort is instead due to having just been punched in the head twice simultaneously. Paladin - A holy beat down in the name of God!
JerryLove Posted July 24, 2003 Posted July 24, 2003 Medical Sites:The eardrum may be ruptured due to trauma, such as a sharp blow to the external ear. - http://health.discovery.com/diseasesandcond/encyclopedia/2344.htmlThe most common causes of a ruptured eardrum are: • An object inserted into the ear such as a cotton swab or bobby pin • A forceful blow to the ear ... http://www.acenta.com/ent.rupturedeardrum.aspEar infection and injury to the side of the head or ear are the most common causes. Other causes include: * a blow to the ear - http://www.utmbhealthcare.org/hil/EARN4456.asp?header= http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=ruptured+eardrum+blow examples of it happening in a fight:The punch ruptured Micky’s eardrum, throwing his equilibrium off for the remainder of the fight. - http://www.rossboxing.com/articles/article193.htmThat time came earlier than expected with the fight ending disappointingly after Leija refused to answer the bell for the seventh round, citing a ruptured eardrum. - http://www.boxinginsider.net/columns/stories/45232511.phpAssistant District Attorney Steve Sloan called on inmate Curtis Easley to testify about the broken nose and ruptured eardrum he suffered in a fight with Williams - http://www.centredaily.com/mld/dailytimes/2003/06/05/news/6019143.htm http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&safe=off&q=ruptured+eardrum+fight https://www.clearsilat.com
Martial_Artist Posted July 24, 2003 Posted July 24, 2003 Again, note: *DO NOT TRY TO EARBOX YOUR FRIEND TO SEE WHAT IT FEELS LIKE* *It can hurt* "I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination.Imagination is more important than knowledge.Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles the world." Einstein
Shorin Ryuu Posted July 25, 2003 Posted July 25, 2003 Box the ears? You haven't heard of this before? It's an old technique and not necessarily a traditional "martial arts" move. Simply clap your hands over their ears. *Note: DO NOT TRY THIS FOR PRACTICE.* *It can hurt.* I've seen this move taught in many traditional martial arts circles. It isn't like it is a brand new thing... Martial Arts Blog:http://bujutsublogger.blogspot.com/
ValeTudo Posted July 25, 2003 Posted July 25, 2003 All of the examples Jerry Love cited talk about punching the ears. So my question is, why box the ears?? Just punch the crap out of them. Given the angle you'd be hitting with, you can get a lot more leverage to hit hard w/ a punch, than with boxing the ears. So why box them?
JerryLove Posted July 25, 2003 Posted July 25, 2003 Generally because it's easier... but do whichever makes you more happy. I would expect the open hand to be faar more likely to get the ruptured eardrum effect. https://www.clearsilat.com
ValeTudo Posted July 25, 2003 Posted July 25, 2003 Generally because it's easier... but do whichever makes you more happy. I would expect the open hand to be faar more likely to get the ruptured eardrum effect. Why? The examples you cited (besides the prison one which doesn't identify a particular strike) took place during boxing matches. That means that punches were the cause of those impacts. I think it would be FAR easier to punch someone in the ear than it would be to simultaneously slap both ears while keeping your hands air-tight. Do you have any examples of open hand strikes doing this kind of damage? Why do you think an open hand strike would be far more likely to get the effect? The evidence, thus far, says otherwise.
JerryLove Posted July 25, 2003 Posted July 25, 2003 The examples you cited (besides the prison one which doesn't identify a particular strike) took place during boxing matches. This is because the events and injuries in boxing matches are more widely recorded than the details of other fights.That means that punches were the cause of those impacts. I think it would be FAR easier to punch someone in the ear than it would be to simultaneously slap both ears while keeping your hands air-tight. One need not get both ears... so the question becomes "which will get closer to a seal, a fist or a palm"... I think that's self-evident. Further, a boxer's punch is helped by the glove itself; which in this case gives a large, smooth surface with which to form a seal.Do you have any examples of open hand strikes doing this kind of damage? Why do you think an open hand strike would be far more likely to get the effect? Some on-point medical sites: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&safe=off&q=rupture+eardrum+open+hand&spell=1 Unlike a closed fist, an open hand usually produces an air pocket with the ear canal, causing pressure against the eardrum that can actually rupture it inward. - http://cpmcnet.columbia.edu/texts/guide/hmg31_0005.html The causes of perforated eardrum are usually from trauma or infection. A perforated eardrum can occur: If the ear is struck squarely with an open hand - - http://www.entassociates.com/perforation.htm I don't have a particular instance I can point to.. as I mentioned, the details of non-competative figths are seldom recorded... but medical consensus is clear. https://www.clearsilat.com
ValeTudo Posted July 25, 2003 Posted July 25, 2003 Well that evidence is certainly much more convincing! Sounds good.
CodyydoC Posted August 17, 2003 Posted August 17, 2003 if ur sparring with a friend and u want to keep this friend dont hit the ears and the position i have in my head for that first question would seem like he/she is tryin to tickle u, which isnt a very good position to be in in a real fight or bout Codywhite belt in everything
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