sansoouser Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 I've been noticing that some people underestimate martial sports if you will, like judo for one. Contrary to what most people think judo does include striking. And only the effective ones for self defense. But it is mostly taught only to black belts. So I say that it is an effectve self defense art. Probably one of the most complete martial arts out there. It has ground fighting, throws, chokes, trips, arm bars, well joint locks, punching, kicking, striking like knife hand and what not. So in essence it is almost a complete fighting art. The amateur shoots his hands out ferociously, but lacks any true power. A master is not so flamboyant, but his touch is as heavy as a mountain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUSSIE Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 No it's not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sansoouser Posted July 23, 2003 Author Share Posted July 23, 2003 why? The amateur shoots his hands out ferociously, but lacks any true power. A master is not so flamboyant, but his touch is as heavy as a mountain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telsun Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 It's how you apply rules that make it a sport. I keep asking God what I'm for and he tells me........."gee I'm not sure!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icetuete Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 brutalness kicks to the groin, eye strikes etc are forbidden and make an art very effective. judo was invented to not hurt ur opponent while fighting arts are invented to intentionally do so in the fastest and most effective way there is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sansoouser Posted July 23, 2003 Author Share Posted July 23, 2003 please guys... study the art before you comment on what is was made or what it is for. Jigaro Kano said only black belts should be taught the strikes, that includes eye and groin striking. But they are not used in competition, just for self defense. So the real judo has throws, ground work, striking, includes punching, kicking, chokes, arm bars it has every aspect of fighting in it. These are just some of the techniques, Ude-Waza (Arm Strikes) Ago-oshi (jaw push) Ryogan-tsuki (strike to both eyes) Suri-age (forehead thrust) Tsuki-kake (punch) Tsukiage (uppercut) Yoko-uchi (side blow) Naname-uchi (slanting strike) Kirioroshi (downward cut) Ushiro-dori (hold from behind) Ushiro-ate (rear strike) Ashi-Ate (Leg Strikes) Ryote-dori (two hand hold) Gyakute-dori (reverse two hand hold) Keage (kick) Mae-geri (front kick) Ushiro-geri (rear kick) Yoko-geri (side kick) Ashi-fumi (foot stamp) The amateur shoots his hands out ferociously, but lacks any true power. A master is not so flamboyant, but his touch is as heavy as a mountain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icetuete Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 if it is only to the black belts to do the real painful stuff, arent other arts like Krav Maga better for self defense purpose, because u learn the dirty stuff (groin, eyes etc) right from the beginning? no offense here - just curious for ur opinions because i neither do judo or krav maga. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sansoouser Posted July 23, 2003 Author Share Posted July 23, 2003 yes, it would be but I have another thread on sport being better than martial art, because you learn to take pain but anyway. The throws in judo are very effective on the streets, people get broken arms and elbows, mostly elbows because they try to break their fall in the cement and crack. The amateur shoots his hands out ferociously, but lacks any true power. A master is not so flamboyant, but his touch is as heavy as a mountain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aznkarateboi Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 AUSSIE, you may be new to this forum. However, when you answer with a 'yes' or a 'no', you should give details and explain your answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icetuete Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 yes, judo is very good in the streets. there has to be a reason why there are about as many judo practitioners in the world as there are karatekas/TKDists or even more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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