Kirves Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 extremely unskilled students. The problem is that these McDojo's often build up their students' confidence Exactly. Many people seem to think that "I'd know if they were bad, but all the students are skilled", but how can an unskilled person judge the other guys skill level? No way. Only someone who knows how to do it, can see how wrong the other guys are doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UsagiYojimbo Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 Kirves, There is an exception to this, I think. If you've seen other people do it well (in competition or the like, not movies), then you could probably tell the skill level of the school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shotochem Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 Only someone who knows how to do it, can see how wrong the other guys are doing it. Thats really not true. I can easily tell if someone is better than me. Its not that difficult to notice if someone has good technique. The gi is popping the form is good, flowing, graceful yet powerful. If a person is clomping around like a horse tripping over thier own feet, looking like their punches couldn't hurt a toddler..........you know its not good. Pain is only temporary, the memory of that pain lasts a lifetime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewGreen Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 People will judge others based on there own preconceptions. If I train for years in TKD/Karate and then go into a Muay Thai school I might think there kicks are sloppy as no one does a "proper" chamber. If I train Aikido for years visiting a wrestling class I might think the takedowns are "crude" If I am conditioned to "Traditional" arts I might walk out of a BJJ class as soon as I see the Purple/Brown belt instructor, since only x dan and higher can teach a class, A purple belt doesn't even have 2 years training right? Untrained people are sometimes better at judging others then trained people, simply because they haven't been conditioned to think a certain way. Andrew Greenhttp://innovativema.ca - All the top martial arts news! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paralax19 Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 I had a quick scan and i could see anyone mention is. Might wonna try: https://www.mcdojo.com or https://www.bullshido.com Both the same website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirves Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 Thats really not true. I can easily tell if someone is better than me. Its not that difficult to notice if someone has good technique. But if you were taught wrong kind as good? If some over-extended kime was taught to you as "good" so you see someone do it better than you and you think his technique is good, even in reality it sucks. Or your instructor taught you the stance all wrong, the angles and weight distribution completely distorted. Then you try to do it as he instructs, and you see someone succeeding better than you, then you think the guy is better than you are. But the whole technique just sucks because the instructor learned it all from a book and got it wrong. And take someone who has never grappled, show him a move and ask him for all the possible counters and reversals to it. He won't know them. So how can he judge someone's tehcnique for possible weaknesses if he doesn't even know what to look for? And that's the whole point: your instructor tells you what you should look for and how it should be done. If he tells you the wrong things, you will be looking at the wrong things, simple as that. Do you really think all the McDojo students are in their schools, fully seeing that the stuff is crap, yet deciding to stick to it? Of course not, they think they are doing it right, and they see the advanced students do it as the instructor tells them. They just don't know that the instructor is incompetent to start with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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