ShotokanKen Posted July 22, 2003 Posted July 22, 2003 my ? is what is a McDojo ive seen that term used a few times and was wondering what exactly it was thanks again ORANGE Belt(WTF) TaeKwonDo
delta1 Posted July 22, 2003 Posted July 22, 2003 McDojo is basically the martial arts equivalent of fast food. You could go out for a steak dinner (real martial art), but it will cost you more (effort). Or you could go to McDojo's and get a #1 , and for a little more money they'll supersize it with all sorts of goodies like a fancy uniform with lots of patches and awards. They'll guarantee your black belt is already under the heat lamps, just waiting for your order. The instructor is probably some clown who's never been in a fight in his life. And like the McD's food that clogs your arteries, the techniques you learn at McDo's will get you killed or hurt if you ever have to use them for real. Things like forms and difficult drills are like wine, you won't get it at McD's. It's a deragatory term for a school that is in it only for the fast buck, not for the art. Freedom isn't free!
Valithor Posted July 22, 2003 Posted July 22, 2003 (edited) Sounds like a little bit of an insult to McDonald's to me... Edited July 22, 2003 by Valithor Keep Smiling!
AndrewGreen Posted July 22, 2003 Posted July 22, 2003 (edited) McDojo - A degrading term used towards schools that do things that go against the beliefs and indoctornation of the user. One mans "McDojo" is anothers ideal dojo. Edited July 22, 2003 by AndrewGreen Andrew Greenhttp://innovativema.ca - All the top martial arts news!
battousai16 Posted July 22, 2003 Posted July 22, 2003 "One mans "McDojo" is anothers idea dojo." ah, good point "Sounds like a little bit of an insult to McDonald's to me... " i don't think they mind to much. sides, it's kinda like what andrew green said. when i'm strapped for cash, and there's no food in the house, i see nothing wrong with stopping in at a mcdonalds... wait, where was i going with that? ah blast it. i don't think i had a point, i think i'm just hungry. anyway, there's a thread around here somewhere that goes in depth to this... i'll try to find it "I hear you can kill 200 men and play a mean six string at the same time..."-Six String Samurai
tommarker Posted July 23, 2003 Posted July 23, 2003 a mcdojo is a school that does something different than the superior way you do it in your school I'm no longer posting here. Adios.
delta1 Posted July 23, 2003 Posted July 23, 2003 McDojo - A degrading term used towards schools that do things that go against the beliefs and indoctornation of the user. One mans "McDojo" is anothers ideal dojo. True, the term is used that way. I guess that brings up one other critical point about the McD phenom, and that is that they typically misrepresent themselves. The McD's claim to be realistic fighting arts, but their techniques are unrealistic. I have no problem with schools that train for health, sport or spirituality, as long as they are up front about it. It bothers me to see some of the stuff that is touted as realistic self defense, but that would actually hurt the MA instead of the bad guy. Freedom isn't free!
shotochem Posted July 23, 2003 Posted July 23, 2003 Mc Dojo = Franchise $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Beware the hidden costs $$$$$$ 5yr old Blackbelts & 11yr old grandmasters Blackbelt in 2yrs or less...... just pay $$$$$$$ Monthly gradings for all....... everyone always passes !!!!! (there are exceptions here, if someone trains 4hrs a day 5 or six days a week I have no problem with it.) Im talking about the 2 30 min classes a week guy. I could think of more but I dont want to start a flame war. A lot of MA schools have a few Mc dojo-like leanings but are still good solid schools. The real test to see if your school is any good, is to go to other dojos and watch a few classes. See how your dojo stacks up against the others. Are your BB as good as theirs? Are their greenbelts better than your brown belts ect.... Appearance and facilities are not as important as overall quality of instruction. Everyone should do this occasionally, it will give you a reasonable standard to compare yourself to. Pain is only temporary, the memory of that pain lasts a lifetime.
monkeygirl Posted July 23, 2003 Posted July 23, 2003 McDojo's are typically defined as schools that are in it ONLY for the money, and use lots of gimmicks to get you to buy the newest t-shirt, sparring gear, whatever. Another typical aspect of a McDojo is that they hold low training standards...3 year-old blackbelts, poor self-defense training, and extremely unskilled students. The problem is that these McDojo's often build up their students' confidence and gloss up the training so that the students often have no idea how little they're learning. The most dangerous thing that a McDojo can offer is a false sense of security. Some McDojo's can build you up to think you can take anyone on, and then the moment you're cornered in a street, you get pummeled. It's important to remember: A school can be expensive and have gimmicks, but still have GREAT training. A school can be cheap and have TERRIBLE training. 1st dan & Asst. Instructor TKD 2000-2003No matter the tune...if you can rock it, rock it hard.
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