TKD bashing?

[Yet another TKD guy]

"Now people will argue and say that I saw my friend beat up so and so. But if we are using the 'law of equals', the average MA student who only trains in the Americanized TKD would be at a disadvantage to on who trains in BJJ, Muay Thai, Pankration, etc. I think that is why the bashing goes on, people make it out to be a UFC fight all the time. If I wanted to enter the UFC or Pride Fighting championships, I wouldn't train in TaeKwonDo, nor would I have a real job, and my ears would look like Califlowers."

 

This is highly incorrect. The problem is that high ranking taekwondoists keep losing to low ranking mixed martial artists. Not every mixed martial artists is training for UFC. Many are just martial hobbiests like most. Theres o excuse for being so close minded that you cannot succesfully fight against a martial artist of another style. After a certain point its time to stop making excuses and learn some new skills.

[JKDChick]

Frankly, I bash TKD because I spent five years getting a black belt from the WTTU, at high cost, and learned more about fighting in the first 1/2 hour with my current instructor than I did in all of those years.

[karatekid1975]

You were a victim of a Mcdojang Sorry to hear that. But you did find elsewhere to train, which most people in McDojangs should do

[mattyj]

people bash tkd because the stuff they see on tv and at most 'inter martial art' tournaments is sport tkd, who do alot of flashy kicks etc, which are ineffective in street situations.

 

what they dont know/dont see is that taekwondo (as formed by general choi-aka traditional tkd) originally had military application and is not all about flashy techniques. Commercialism of martial arts is a sad, sad thing. taekwondo has just received the worst dose of it.

[dingyuan]

A lot of people nowdays not only bash TKD but all traditional martial arts. You can hear all those comments like TKD is crap... Karate not good for street or Kung Fu is simply useless. Mostly these people are mixed martial artist or BJJ fanboys becuase none of the traditional martial arts have proven itself in the ring.

[karatekid1975]

Yea, I agree. I was in a MA chat room last night. And this BJJ person was bashing all arts BUT BJJ. But yet this person has never taken any other MA. All they have done is BJJ and watched UFC. It's a shame when people are this ignorant. I can understand their point of view and/or opinion if they actually took another art, but people like this never have. It's disappointing to see someone bash another art that they have no clue about

[Sam]

Hello!! Nice to see its not getting to heated in here.... mostly this sort of thing deteorates into a mess of a shouting match.

 

I would say that a lot of people bash TKD because of the MASSIVE number of blinkered practitioners. And althoug I am at a disadvantage in experience (only having done TKD) i take my training very seriously and branch out to new techniques whenever i get the chance - currently other time constraints prevent me from takin up another MA

 

ne way to this issue a hand. In TKD there is a disproportionately high number of (a) McDojangs (b) un professional martial artists. Concentrating on (b) as we all know bout McDojangs well enough.

 

By unprofessional i mean that they concentrate too much on the "Tae" part of tae kwon do - as to destroy with the foot : and dont concentrate on the fact there is a "kwon" (destroy with hand) - and also take this a bit to far and say since im only using my legs i dont need to learn to block at all or even fight close range.

 

I would say personally no its not a complete fighting system, it maybe emphasises things too much to the detriment of others, but it is by no means ineffective : as we always seem to end up saying - its largely down to the practitioners attitude.

[karatekid1975]

We have good mods here

 

Anyways, I totally agree with you. Eventhough, there are Mcdojangs out there, it does come down to the practitioners attitude. Some might like the sport side of TKD, and would love a dojang that does nothing but kicks.

 

But there's people like me (eventhough I don't mind sparring) who hate the rules of the sport side of TKD. BUT my dojang covers everything (forms, one steps, combat tactics/self defense, ect). So I'm happy here.

[cjburns77]

I like the sport side of TKD. because it is fun to me. olympic sparring and points sparring. but my dojang also teaches hoshinsool and step sparring.. I realize that sparring for points is not the same as real life situations.. I am lucky that i am not in mcdojang..

[ravenzoom]

I was watching Best of the Best 1 last night and I believe Phillip Rhee's (asian fighter for american team) martial art is Tae Kwon Do, and he does look pretty competent at it, I wouldn't like to face him in real life. He seems to know more than kicks also, as you see him make a few grappling moves. On another point, one of the senior students at the Wing Chun dojo I used to practice in once told me that he hated to spar against Tae Kwon Do experts because those powerful kicks could be devestating if one landed. I was surprised when he said this to me because I, like many others it seems, don't (or didn't) consider Tae Kwon Do a very street oriented martial art. However, under the hands of a real expert, who has not only trained the kicking aspect of Tae Kwon Do, I can very well imagine this style as being effective.