ShirKhan Posted July 20, 2003 Posted July 20, 2003 Don't fight the bat. Fight the man holding it. You should be rushing in as the bat is being pulled back for a swing. If you're close enough to kiss your opponent, you're now dealing with a man with both hands busy on a useless bat. Figure it out from there.
Warp Spider Posted July 21, 2003 Posted July 21, 2003 Well, actually, a bat isn't useless just because you're close up. You could still be butted with the bottom end of it, and that would likely still be very unpleasant. Kind of like a gun without bullets. It's still not harmless, getting pistol whipped would be quite unpleasant. Paladin - A holy beat down in the name of God!
TJA Posted July 21, 2003 Posted July 21, 2003 Well I'm assuming you have been in this situation before ( training wise) - their are many ways to defend yourself from a baseball bat swing - but they all depend on the distance of where your attacker is and where you are. In my system we train with sticks,knives and the infamous yellow wiffle ball baseball bat that you can get in your neighborhood toy story. These are all training aids for situations that might happen. Livining in New York City I've seen people get hit with bats and it's not a pretty sight at all very nerve racking. So if you have never trained for these scenarious please do so. Train with your back up against the wall/You backed up in a corner - someone attacking with a knife or bat - figure the basics out first - you know that you don't want to be the ball at the end of that bat - or the steak on the end of the knife I have a few suggestions that have worked for me and my students - If you are standing in front of the person attacking (swinging from right to left) you want to basically be at Zero pressure when the swing comes - in this situation Zero pressure would be the end of the swing or your opponents left side - this does not mean you will not get HIT, you may or may not depending upon how you have reacted. If I can find a diagram I'll post it there so you know what I mean - but for now I'll try my best to describe in short detail Basically look at a half circle and the opponent with BAT IN HAND is in the middle - you are facing him - the bat comes from right to left - if you don't move you get hit with that bat with the pressure of 100 percent - if you angle your steps toward his left - going in the direction of 0 pressure - you have a better chance of not getting hit or not taking the most of the blow - this concept can be easily found in Aiki-jiujitsu/Aikido and the Filipino Martial Arts - as well as many other systems - hope this helps a little
Treebranch Posted July 21, 2003 Posted July 21, 2003 Learn weapons based MA's they deal with this kind of stuff all the time, if it's reality based at all it does. "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience.""Lock em out or Knock em out"
ShirKhan Posted July 22, 2003 Posted July 22, 2003 Well, actually, a bat isn't useless just because you're close up. You could still be butted with the bottom end of it, and that would likely still be very unpleasant. I'm sorry...my mistake. I should have said get in close and take your hands out of your pockets. Sorry for the confusion...LOL
sethgraham Posted July 22, 2003 Posted July 22, 2003 maybe im just insane or something but i would try to move w/ the bat then grab it and pull it to my side then kick the crap out of the person 14,purple belt,TKDtalk to me i'm fun
Prodigal Son Posted July 22, 2003 Posted July 22, 2003 If the dude is holding the bat out in front (usually yelling "come on !", he's an easy target. As he winds up for the swing (pulls it back), just rush in and wail on his soft bits. If he is holding it 'coc ked' {wow - that word's blocked, too !} -and by that I mean behind his neck- then he has possibly used a bat before, so be more careful. You should still be able to beat him to the draw, though. Simply control the leading elbow (thus stopping the swing) until you can get the bat from him and beat him to death with it. Always worth avoiding chaps with weapons, IMO. >>>PS<<< ------------------------------------------------------------------------Self-defense is only an illusion, a dark cloak beneath which lurks a razor-sharp dagger waiting to be plunged into the first unwary victim. Sifu Wong.
granmasterchen Posted July 23, 2003 Posted July 23, 2003 i have been in some bat fights....very painful, just remember that there are no rules and do everything that you can to take the individuals out, make sure to use that arm to block, it is better to have a busted arm than a busted head That which does not destroy me will only make me stronger
niel0092 Posted July 23, 2003 Posted July 23, 2003 jam, and to quote Prodigal Son, "wail on his soft bits". heh heh, that was a cool way to put it Podigal "Jita Kyoei" Mutual Benefit and Welfare
killerblackbelt Posted July 25, 2003 Posted July 25, 2003 When being swung at... always jam yourself within his innner arm. Well hell that might not work... just do a flying side kick at his * and drop him! OR RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNNNNN! lol Being beat is not an option!
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