Hohan-1 Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 Kyokushinkai is better than any American Kenpo system IMHO. I was just stating that I've seen successful Kenpo guys in the UFC and no Kyokushin or Shotokan guys. Shotokan would be effective for real fighting if it was done "Karate Jutsu" style. You know before "Karate-Do Kyohan" or "Kid's Karate 101". I would pick Shotokan over Kenpo American style anyday. I think Oyama understood this so he integarted what he thought were necessary principles from other styles. Kyokushin is my choice for the best all-around of the 3 mentioned. For Japanese Karate forget Wado, Shito, Goju or Shotokan and go with Kyokushin or an off-shoot like Ashihara. Traditional=EternalNidan, Hakutsurukan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cross Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 Yes ashihara is sometimes known has "fighting karate" and includes a bit a grappling has well. But in saying that, unless the practicioner knows how to use it then its useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sano Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 i'm telling shidokan is better i mean you spar like the first lesson now if that isn't a true art, if i'm correct in kyokushin when you start sparring is when you have some color to your belt. falcon kick!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valithor Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 Don't underestimate the value of a good foundation... Keep Smiling! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aznkarateboi Posted July 21, 2003 Author Share Posted July 21, 2003 Hohan-1, just out of curiosity, could you name the kenpo guys that were in the UFC? I'd like to find out a bit more about them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knockdown Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 the kempo fighter in the early UFC was named Keith Hackney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knockdown Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 there is also one particular style of kempo called Byakuren Kaikan Karate Kempo which does Knockdown fighting for its sport and also has softer "aikido-ish " side as well. its all good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShirKhan Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 I have a black belt in Kenpo and I don't have an answer to this question. All three are excellent combat styles and it would depend on the individual entirely. It's just another slant on the style versus style debate which has never had an answer anyway...people choose styles like they choose mates, either to complement their strengths or address their weaknesses. If there really was a magic, invincible "style" that made all others obsolete we would all know about it already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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