Rich67 Posted May 2, 2004 Posted May 2, 2004 Thanks, Rich. Sounds more like it all the time. Attack the attack, keep him off ballance. The object wasn't even to keep him on the defensive, but to hurt him and keep him hurtin'. Total domination from the first move, regardless which one threw first. Sounds like they shared some of the same philosophy and concepts, at least. We did some takedowns, throws, and joint locks as well. San Soo do a lot of that? I see in your earlier post (way earlier) you do some. We did just enough to capture, control or subdue the average guy long enough to hit him again, or to get help there. But you couldn't by any means call it comprehensive.We did some joint locks and arm bars. Didn't do too much on the way of takedowns, just some judo-style flips. Mainly, we stressed striking, striking locations to elicit specific responses, and knees and elbows. Mixed Martial Artist
White Warlock Posted May 3, 2004 Posted May 3, 2004 San soo, otherwise known as tsoi li hoi fut hung-ga, incorporates tsoi-ga (punches, kicks, and other strikes), li-ga (leverages, throws, and locks... actually... breaks), hoi-ga (pressure points and vital areas... anatomy and exploitation of such), fut-ga (mind over body, psychology of war), and hung-ga (power, a basic study of physic and metaphysics, as applied to martial arts). Will chat more later. gotta run. "When you are able to take the keys from my hand, you will be ready to drive." - Shaolin DMV TestIntro
SevenStar Posted May 3, 2004 Posted May 3, 2004 I've heard that san soo isn't actually a legitimate kung fu style. They say it's a good art, but it's not really kung fu.
White Warlock Posted May 3, 2004 Posted May 3, 2004 I've heard that san soo isn't actually a legitimate kung fu style. They say it's a good art, but it's not really kung fu.You are thinking of san shou, which was born in the early/mid 20th century due to Chinese martial arts systems losing in the thai boxing arena. San shou eventually obtained its own degree of credibility. San soo is a legitimate kung fu style (in the sense of what 'legitimate' stands for within the context of these discussions) and a completely different animal than that of san shou. Its lineage is well documented and follows closely that of tsoi li fut (choy li fut). As i noted earlier, the actual name of the system is tsoi li hoi fut hung-ga. It was later given the name of san soo, by Jimmy Woo, because san soo was an 'easier' name for Americans to remember than tsoi li hoi fut hung-ga. In actuality, it is supposed to be called tsoi-ga li-ga hoi-ga fut-ga hung-ga, yet even the Chinese version was shortened. "When you are able to take the keys from my hand, you will be ready to drive." - Shaolin DMV TestIntro
White Warlock Posted May 3, 2004 Posted May 3, 2004 Other karateforums related threads: http://www.karateforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=12274&highlight=san+soo http://www.karateforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=12371&highlight=san+soo http://www.karateforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=11282&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=san+soo "When you are able to take the keys from my hand, you will be ready to drive." - Shaolin DMV TestIntro
Drunken Monkey Posted May 4, 2004 Posted May 4, 2004 hmm, i'm not sure that the 'ga' bit would have been used even in chinese. it's not proper grammar. well, it's actually kinda complicated. when talking about multiples of something, the common part can be ommited. for example, when talking about me and my cousins, you would call us yuen kwok hei, kwok chiu, kwok chi etc etc and omit the yuen bit. post count is directly related to how much free time you have, not how intelligent you are."When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite."
White Warlock Posted May 4, 2004 Posted May 4, 2004 Definitely don't take me as an expert in Chinese. I'm basing it on what i was told by silly little monkeys vying for power. Friggin' tangentializer "When you are able to take the keys from my hand, you will be ready to drive." - Shaolin DMV TestIntro
Drunken Monkey Posted May 4, 2004 Posted May 4, 2004 well, seeing as i seem to be the resident cantonese speaker.... post count is directly related to how much free time you have, not how intelligent you are."When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite."
SevenStar Posted May 4, 2004 Posted May 4, 2004 No, I'm thinking of san soo. I'll find some of the things I've seen and post them.
Treebranch Posted May 4, 2004 Posted May 4, 2004 All I know from studying it, it's a no * type to fighting that gets the job done fast. "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience.""Lock em out or Knock em out"
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