Prodigal Son Posted July 18, 2003 Posted July 18, 2003 I thought you'd tried to put lesb ian - Wow that's banned too? Come on now KF Senseis.. that's not cool!!! That is exactly what I tried to put, Mokoto. And I don't think it's at all fair to make it into a dirty word, because if it IS an offensive word, then by definition it is an offensive act, and those who would describe themselves as such are not good people. And that is boll ocks. Many people the world over are les bian and should be treated as equals, here and everywhere else. On the other hand, those who are homophobic should be treated as those who are racist - and hospitalised. I feel that this issue deserves the attention of a Sensei. >>>PS<<< ------------------------------------------------------------------------Self-defense is only an illusion, a dark cloak beneath which lurks a razor-sharp dagger waiting to be plunged into the first unwary victim. Sifu Wong.
Synaesthesia Posted July 18, 2003 Posted July 18, 2003 That is exactly what I tried to put, Mokoto. And I don't think it's at all fair to make it into a dirty word, because if it IS an offensive word, then by definition it is an offensive act, and those who would describe themselves as such are not good people. And that is boll ocks. What next? Is the word "heterosexual" or "straight" going to be offensive enough to be removed? C'mon, that's just ridiculous. Even if you do 'disagree' with homosexual activity, it's hardly rude to refer to it's existence.
karate_woman Posted July 18, 2003 Posted July 18, 2003 OK, I think we've wandered off topic. The issue was: male only training/grappling as the writer's wife was uncomfortable with m/f grappling and he respected that. The journey of a thousand miles begins with one step. -Lao-Tse
RGCW55 Posted July 21, 2003 Posted July 21, 2003 It seems more and more wives are immature about things like that. you should tell your wife its only fighting. its not like your #*@%ing every women you touch.. i dont know what her problem is, maybe she just doesnt feel secure in her own relationship. oh well hope she aint parranoid or perhapse feeling guilty and expressing it with rage... Lync
karate_woman Posted July 21, 2003 Posted July 21, 2003 It seems more and more wives are immature about things like that. you should tell your wife its only fighting. its not like your #*@%ing every women you touch.. i dont know what her problem is, maybe she just doesnt feel secure in her own relationship. oh well hope she aint parranoid or perhapse feeling guilty and expressing it with rage... There are a lot of men out there that are uncomfortable with their wives grappling with other men, too; don't point fingers at women on this one. While neither I nor my husband see any issue with me grappling other men, some people have religious or other reasons for their discomfort; attacking his wife isn't productive or appropriate. He really didn't ask us for help persuading his wife that it was OK to grapple other women - while many of us are kind of baffled at what the problem is, he says he sees her point and is trying to respect that - he just wants to figure out a way he can train while respecting the boundaries (they've) set up. The journey of a thousand miles begins with one step. -Lao-Tse
Kamidake Posted July 21, 2003 Posted July 21, 2003 He's a patient man, that's for sure. I still think the problem may be the wife doesn't understand what goes on in class; that's why I suggested having her watch. Then, if she's been shown what goes on and she still gives him grief, he might want to consider whether what he really needs is a new class, or a new wife. But let's hope it doesn't come to that.
RGCW55 Posted July 21, 2003 Posted July 21, 2003 i didnt mean to generalize my argument like that. i understand it comes from both sides of the genders. I just think people are hurting themselves when they set up boundries in life.. i mean look at the cops enforcing all the boundries the uncommon wealth have set up.. then again im pretty sure most if not all who read this are probably wealthy and see it ok to harass a kid for sleeping outside or tell someone its ok to smoke ciggarettes(eww and kill yourself wow thats wierd only the things that hurt us and make us slow weak and ignorant are legal) but they cant smoke pot or eat shrooms ( which do what? thats right rebirth your creative analytical and natural nonreligious spiritual thinking that was destroyed by menticide in a vulnerable young mind through a prolonged and mandatory process.. AKA the american school system!) you know im a traveler and youwouldnt believe the kind of world i see. i deal with cops pulling guns on you because they think you might have a gun in your sleeping bag (yeah right no one smiles whilie they are afraid) or beats the hell out of you IN JAIL after arresting you for saying you want peace and then you stand up to a cop at the protest and get in his face about beating some kid and not tellin him why so my run ins with the common boundries of with world have never been very wonderful and i tend to think that other boundries will tend to follow the same destructive restricting path for human evolution to the point where we arnt some spiecies that thrives on death and destruction (which reminds me of the christians.. worshiping the death of thier savior... so many dieing in the name of god for wars) he might have to fight a women one day and wont have as good a grasp on the anatomy and mobility of a female.. example take a man and a women and stand them back flat on the wall have the man bend over and pick up a penny at his toes and its more challenging than it is for the women alot of this having to do with the pelvic bone of a women. Women also tend to be more agile then regular men. so i just hope he doesnt get his dome crack by some chick one day try and graple her in a real street fight and then go beat red when he brushes her breast or something makes him feel uncomfortable cause he now relates battling a women with being restricted and restriction does not free one. im not trying to make enemies i just like having my opinion so if at all possible would you reframe from TRYING to send bad energy my way! Lync
battousai16 Posted July 22, 2003 Posted July 22, 2003 well, i see your point, but now i think you're generalizing other things and, in a sense, putting boundaries on boundaries. not all boundaries lead to destruction, not all common wealth folk are evil, not all policemen will beat you for promoting peace. one must respect and appreciate that. and while i agree with you in that said matters happen far to often and the legalization of cigarettes vs. marijuana is a little rediculous, those are topics for another thread. infact, i think one exists for each of them, if i'm not mistaken. that said, hey guy-who-started-this-thread, i think it's great that you respect your wife and her wishes enough to go through this much trouble. i'm sure she's grateful. but a lot of the other posters here seem to have a point. perhaps it would be easier to see a no harm/no foul stand point rather than find a mens only place...? "I hear you can kill 200 men and play a mean six string at the same time..."-Six String Samurai
Rising Soldier Posted August 21, 2003 Posted August 21, 2003 When it comes to grappling...I rather grapple w/ a girl than any guy bya far shot... But why worry about your spouse's thoughts, as mentioned before many times bring her along so that she can see it's harmlesss fun... OR just tell your sensei to partner you up w/ a male... Anyways that's why I thought i'll be marry when i'm young, im only 15 now, but don't expect me to get marry before my 30's... Just want to have a little fun.... It would be funny to see you grabs a girl's breast by mistake.... Im j/king... Women are a lot toughe rthan men.. cause thye can move around eaiser... Tell your wife to chilll , isn't a marriage based on trust? A yellow belt who's words never hurt, yet skills send chills throughout the body.Shotokan Student - 11 months training
battousai16 Posted August 21, 2003 Posted August 21, 2003 i think that's easier to say when your 15 and have plans on having fun until you're middle aged "I hear you can kill 200 men and play a mean six string at the same time..."-Six String Samurai
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