TigerHeart Posted March 16, 2005 Posted March 16, 2005 Before you can write which is ultimate or not, make sure You've been there yourself, all the fights, I won't say which is the best but here are some of the efftive art in no order, 1. Muay Thai (thailand) Krabikrabong, Muay Boran 2. BJJ (Brazil) 3. Boxing 4. san shou 5. Judo 6. wrestling, And now, if you read back alot of history, kyokushinkai make me sick to my guts, san shou was from china when there fighters lost to the pure MT, so they form them and throw MT out of the ring, from all what I've know alot of people know kickboxing but not alot know muay thai, how is it, becsue MT were there no one Know SIAM (siam) so all the Jpanese as you know how they copy people did went to ther country and let MT train them, all this links, also MMA have to add mt or soem sort, The most rituals respect I had were with Thaiboxer, ther beatuful art of Wai kru, the true beauty of Muay Thai, FACT: most MA began after MT, you can argued all you want,I won't say I have good knowledge of Muay thai with only a month training, I would say if you dated back Muay thai always there, THE BELT IS IN THE RING--- I have done a few, boxing,kickboxing,karate,ninjitsu,juijitsu myself, and felt sorry for the Unknow country as it derserved more respect...the kid in thailand normally from the north study muay thai after school, kids at the age of 6-7 began to train rigoruosly 5 - 8 hours a day began with 12km run, in the morining then 5km run in the aftrenoon, they would kicked a heavybag for 3 hours atleats a day, the childern cry when they train and when they went to the ring to earned some money for ther familes, ther blood are pouring over the cash that they earned, work hard with blood and sweat, in the days they kicked bananas tree instead, The muay thai uses,knee,headbutts,throws,neckwrestling,feet,fist,elbow.... Even if they are Spurebly condition very powful they still earns little money...aftre Muay Thai have began popular many people staart to come to Thailand to train wheather they are karateka's or world champion in ther style.. when I study karate, and went to a tounament, i knock a guy down and was disqualifed, in sparring, but I did well in katas' but to train in ''Conditiong your body VS Katas are two different aspect, I could do katas' all day but i can't keep up with what MT are doing for 1 hour.... MUAY THAI THE KING OF THE RING AND IT WILL STAY THAT WAY NOMATTER WHO WHAT STYLE COMES UP..MT have dated 4000 years from ayuttay becsue the temple have burnt after the war.... I have lots of respect for those BJJ guys, and other style that is nice to us, but often or not, MT styltist were being disrecpect There will be a day that you can't cope with your life, I want you to look at the star and remember, I always smile back at you. luV u lots Jen
Snakeeel Posted March 16, 2005 Posted March 16, 2005 The History of Muay Thai Muay Thai is a highly sophisticated martial art born out of conflict and war. The first historical account of Muay Thai dates back to 1767 and the legendary Nai Khanom Dtom. While a captive of the Burmese, he was ordered to fight ten consecutive matches against the best Burmese boxers. Dtom defeated them all, and was commended by the Burmese king for his bravery and skill. His extraordinary exploit is recorded in school textbooks and is known to every Thai child today. The modern form of Muay Thai was born in 1930 when leather gloves, rounds per bout, and weight classes became standard. In 1964, the Japanese adopted Muay Thai, modified it, and called it "kickboxing." Today, the Thai military, U.S. Seal teams, and the CIA continue to use its effective striking techniques. It is also the national sport of Thailand. I'm sorry but I don't see 4000 years of history here.
Treebranch Posted March 17, 2005 Posted March 17, 2005 Hey it's amazing that the top ten MA's correspond almost exactly with the most popular MA's. Nice. "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience.""Lock em out or Knock em out"
Venezolano Posted March 17, 2005 Posted March 17, 2005 Hey, have you ever make yourself a question like "why are these MA so popular"? woudn't it be by it efectiveness? Valencia - Venezuela.
Treebranch Posted March 17, 2005 Posted March 17, 2005 I don't know do you think that's true? Do you think it will change? Is it possible that we may simply not be aware of what is out there? We tend to gravitate to things that we are familiar, things we've heard of. If we've heard of it we trust it more. That's human nature. It could be they are the most effective and it could that they are not as effective as MA's we've never heard of. Isn't that a possibility? "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience.""Lock em out or Knock em out"
Rank7 Posted March 17, 2005 Posted March 17, 2005 jeet kune do silat muaythai kyukushin bjj judo krav maga wing chun gymnastics kajukenbo Displays a small graphic image below your details in posts. Only one image can be displayed at a time, its width can be no greater than 80 pixels, the height no greater than 80 pixels, and the file size no more than 8 KB.
TigerHeart Posted March 17, 2005 Posted March 17, 2005 Snakeeel Before you say that have you eve visit Thailand, I went to pattaya, Phuket, Cinagmai, Roi Et, Hoe earn, Ayutaya I live there 8 years, Krabi Krabong and Muay Boran (The Old Way) are traditional Thai martial arts strongly linked to Muay Thai and are still practiced in Thailand and in other places around the world. And you should Know how san shou was form while it dind't exist becasue the thai's were busy kicking Gungfu * in the ring, now what did they return us with respect NO!!! they make a new form and name it, then throw us out of the ring...get you Knowledge right.. There will be a day that you can't cope with your life, I want you to look at the star and remember, I always smile back at you. luV u lots Jen
TigerHeart Posted March 17, 2005 Posted March 17, 2005 and to be fair agian this is coming from a 16 years old guy, why do you think the japanses pOk their nose in other arts and name it kickboxing and then Kyokushinkai theres a link,,,what do you think they did it with kickboxing, and you can say that to Kyoukushinkai as well, Bruce lee did visit thailand, as mas oyma try to beat up an old man who wasn't a champ, and mas oyam did train by the thai in japan... Why do you think the Navy seal did chosen MT, and not kyokushinkai or sanshou, why did china chosen san shou???? they did fight with the thais fighters innit...after throwing them out of the ring with handicap, Everytime when my freind goes to a karate club, etc went against this 10x karate champ, he said, ''no knees, no elbows,'' my freind agree then he Ko'd in the first round in front of his friends,,'' 1. Muay Thai (thailand) Krabikrabong, Muay Boran 2. BJJ (Brazil) 3. Boxing 4. san shou 5. Judo 6. wrestling, 7. jeet kune do There will be a day that you can't cope with your life, I want you to look at the star and remember, I always smile back at you. luV u lots Jen
y2_sub Posted March 17, 2005 Posted March 17, 2005 i don't get it , why you hate Kyokushin that much ??? ur the only one that ever hated it like that .. personnally i think that KK is the best but respect other styles !!!! Moon might shine upon the innocent and the guilty alike
Snakeeel Posted March 17, 2005 Posted March 17, 2005 Tigerheart wrote:Before you say that have you eve visit Thailand, I went to pattaya, Phuket, Cinagmai, Roi Et, Hoe earn, Ayutaya I live there 8 years, Krabi Krabong and Muay Boran (The Old Way) are traditional Thai martial arts strongly linked to Muay Thai and are still practiced in Thailand and in other places around the world. And you should Know how san shou was form while it dind't exist becasue the thai's were busy kicking Gungfu * in the ring, now what did they return us with respect NO!!! they make a new form and name it, then throw us out of the ring...get you Knowledge right.. 1. I don't need to visit Thailand to do an Internet search on the history of Muay Thai. 2. I don't do San Shou...I do San Soo. Totally different arts. and know nothing about San Shou so your point has no meaning to me. 3. I respect all the other arts and do not believe that one is inherently better than the other.
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