StoneSkin Posted July 14, 2003 Share Posted July 14, 2003 If you can grab his near side arm and pull as you torque into your 'stance' this will control his depth and width momentarily, keeping him side on to you. It will also disrupt his ballance and pull him in where you can take the initiative and work him over. But you are going to be 'kissing close', because he probably moved toward you to attack and you've brought him on in closer. Your primary skills here would be a good in close arsenal and grappling. Heel palms, elbows, finger techniques, and with one foot on the floor you can still use the knee from the seat. Some joint locks take a lot of space to apply, but some are really good for in close grappling. Chokes would be excellent. the names 1, Delta1 Okay how would you fight someone in a small airplane ? sorry had to put that.. too funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warp Spider Posted July 14, 2003 Share Posted July 14, 2003 a bunch of crap Keep in mind that although not explicity stated, either you or the other person is driving the car, which is probrably moving. It is not wise to turn yourself to face them, or if they are driving, to turn them to face you. Contrary to popular belief, it is quite difficult to drive a car while being attacked, unable to see where you are going, and with neither hand on the wheel. As I said, the best choice would probrably be to splash your hot coffee on them, if you had one. Barring that, if you're driving, do your best to defend and bring the car to a halt, then grab the keys and get out. If you are the passenger, well, I can't imagine the driver being that much of a hazard. Again, just do a half-decent defense. It's not going to be very easy for a person driving a car to attack someone beside them. If this is a back seat confrontation, then the best thing would probrably be what little kids do. Lift up your legs and plant them on the other person. With your back against your door, you can push them against their door, thereby pinning them. You could try choking the person by putting one foot on their neck, or you could use one leg for pinning and the other for weak kicks. If it's in a limo.. I dunno, grab a bottle from the bar and hit them with it. Paladin - A holy beat down in the name of God! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Son Posted July 14, 2003 Share Posted July 14, 2003 Accelerate into the nearest parked car, using the front headlight of the passenger side to make the impact. That should distract your assailant long enough for you to go to work. It may also kill you both, so don't do this unless you are really angry. Even a minor crash attracts lots of attention and possible help, and usually the po-lice come shortly afterwards. Or, just stop picking up crazy looking hitchers... >>>PS<<< ------------------------------------------------------------------------Self-defense is only an illusion, a dark cloak beneath which lurks a razor-sharp dagger waiting to be plunged into the first unwary victim. Sifu Wong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delta1 Posted July 14, 2003 Share Posted July 14, 2003 the names 1, Delta1 I like that, even if it was a jab! Okay how would you fight someone in a small airplane ? Same as in a car. Freedom isn't free! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delta1 Posted July 14, 2003 Share Posted July 14, 2003 Keep in mind that although not explicity stated, either you or the other person is driving the car, which is probrably moving. It is not wise to turn yourself to face them, or if they are driving, to turn them to face you. Contrary to popular belief, it is quite difficult to drive a car while being attacked, unable to see where you are going, and with neither hand on the wheel. I think that is a pretty rash assumption. In fact, the likely scenarios would not involve a moving vehicle. If the driver is seriously attacked, or even more unlikely if he is attacking, while the vehicle is moving, there will almost certainly be a wreck. Popular belief? Who the heck believes you can defend against a serious assault while driving?As I said, the best choice would probrably be to splash your hot coffee on them, if you had one. Barring that, if you're driving, do your best to defend and bring the car to a halt, then grab the keys and get out. If you are the passenger, well, I can't imagine the driver being that much of a hazard. Again, just do a half-decent defense. It's not going to be very easy for a person driving a car to attack someone beside them. If you have coffee, that would be a good idea to start with. But if you are seriously attacked by someone crazy enough to attack the driver of the vehicle he's in while it is moving, do you really think you can put up a "half-decent defense", stop the car and grab the keys? If the vehicle is moving fast at all and the driver is attacked, everyone in the vehicle is in seriouse trouble. That is one of those scenarios that there probably just isn't much you can do about it. If it is going very slow, depending on the circumstances, you might be better off to defend yourself and let it crash. But before you jump on this, I'm not talking about your girlfriend slapping you or you are driving in a crowded school zone. The operative phrase here is 'depending on the circumstances'. You are correct, however, that the driver would have a difficult time assaulting the passenger without letting go of the wheel.If this is a back seat confrontation, then the best thing would probrably be what little kids do. Lift up your legs and plant them on the other person. With your back against your door, you can push them against their door, thereby pinning them. You could try choking the person by putting one foot on their neck, or you could use one leg for pinning and the other for weak kicks. It would probably be more effective to do what dogs do. Lift up your leg and pee on him. I'd go along with kicking the neck (similar to something I suggested). But pinning him with one foot and choking with the other? Or pinning and weak kicks? You are asking to get your ankle wrenched, your butt turned sunny side up and spanked!If it's in a limo.. I dunno, grab a bottle from the bar and hit them with it. Another good idea. Freedom isn't free! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delta1 Posted July 14, 2003 Share Posted July 14, 2003 Some possible scenarios where this might happen: Motives Kidnaping Rape Car-jacking Theft of items in vehicle Demented Scenarios Stoped at light, passenger door unlocked, someone gets in Sandwiched between two cars, accomplice gets in your vehicle In parking lot, assailant pushes you over and gets in your vehicle You are in a car with a whacked out crack head (he's with you, don't ask me why ) You are flying, you hear exciting music, a ruggedly handsome guy rappels from another aircraft into yours and says, "The name's 1, delta1", then goes berserk! Just a few possibilities. Freedom isn't free! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneSkin Posted July 15, 2003 Share Posted July 15, 2003 Quote: Okay how would you fight someone in a small airplane ? Same as in a car. Have you contacted the British secret service Im sure they could use some mroe 00 agents. Hehehehe its just too funny. I can see where it might be good to defend yourself if you are the driver, but defending yourself as a passenger against a driver gets a little tricky. Sure you clock the guy he get ko'd somehow and......CRASH ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warp Spider Posted July 15, 2003 Share Posted July 15, 2003 Keep in mind that although not explicity stated, either you or the other person is driving the car, which is probrably moving. It is not wise to turn yourself to face them, or if they are driving, to turn them to face you. Contrary to popular belief, it is quite difficult to drive a car while being attacked, unable to see where you are going, and with neither hand on the wheel. I think that is a pretty rash assumption. In fact, the likely scenarios would not involve a moving vehicle. If the driver is seriously attacked, or even more unlikely if he is attacking, while the vehicle is moving, there will almost certainly be a wreck. I realize that attempting to fight while driving is dangerous. In fact that's exactly what I said.Popular belief? Who the heck believes you can defend against a serious assault while driving?Now that's just silly. I was using extreme sarcasm to demonstrate how absurd your suggestion to simply ignore the motion of the car.If you have coffee, that would be a good idea to start with. But if you are seriously attacked by someone crazy enough to attack the driver of the vehicle he's in while it is moving, do you really think you can put up a "half-decent defense", stop the car and grab the keys?"half decent defense" being something like putting your free hand up in front of your face to minimize the amount of damage the other guy can do while you decelerate. "Contrary to popular belief," it is not difficult to remove the keys from the ignition when you are driving.It would probably be more effective to do what dogs do. Lift up your leg and pee on him. I'd go along with kicking the neck (similar to something I suggested). But pinning him with one foot and choking with the other? Or pinning and weak kicks? You are asking to get your ankle wrenched, your butt turned sunny side up and spanked! Never had siblings apparently. Ever done a leg press? Planting your back against the door and your legs against the other guy is the approximate equivalent of being sat on by a guy who weighs between 400 and 1200 pounds, depending on your strength. They other guy simply CANNOT fight back when they have that much force holding them against the door. For further comparison, it's the approximate restraint acquired through several G's of acceleration. And it would be quite difficult to flip a person over who was wearing a seatbelt. Perhaps you could TRY sparring with someone in a car to see how absolutely rediculous your idea was. However, while in the vein of ludicrous plans, I'd change the coffee idea for slicing and dicing the guy with the laser held in my super-spy wristwatch. If that didn't work I'd deploy the parachute stored in my shoe to suffocate him. Paladin - A holy beat down in the name of God! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Son Posted July 15, 2003 Share Posted July 15, 2003 Switch on the cigarette lighter, and when it is hot, throw it into the dude's lap...? >>>PS<<< ------------------------------------------------------------------------Self-defense is only an illusion, a dark cloak beneath which lurks a razor-sharp dagger waiting to be plunged into the first unwary victim. Sifu Wong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bart the Lover Posted July 15, 2003 Author Share Posted July 15, 2003 Apologies: I should have mentioned that the car is stationary. Stupid me. delta1 wrote:Motives Kidnaping Rape Car-jacking Theft of items in vehicle Demented Scenarios Stoped at light, passenger door unlocked, someone gets in Sandwiched between two cars, accomplice gets in your vehicle In parking lot, assailant pushes you over and gets in your vehicle You are in a car with a whacked out crack head (he's with you, don't ask me why ) That's the kind of thing I was thinking of. Sorry for the confusion. Regards, Bart the Lover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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