Bart the Lover Posted July 11, 2003 Posted July 11, 2003 Hello, folks. I've been wondering about defending yourself whilst in a car. I don't mean an attack from outside, but from someone sitting next to you. How would you deal with this situation? Assume the attacker does not have a weapon, and you cannot immediately get out of the car. Any thoughts? Thanks for your time. Regards, Bart the Lover
Synaesthesia Posted July 11, 2003 Posted July 11, 2003 Obviously the key is to escape the car whether you are driver or passenger. Be aware of what limitations to your escape present themselves. Are the doors unlockable? Any attack of the person with you should be executed with an eye towards getting yourself or them out of there, right? A second problem is seatbelts. I would like to hear some thoughts from experts on the sorts of techniques one could do if, for instance, their seatbelt was broken. Might you first unhook the shoulder strap, try to get a solid eye gouge on the person and hook them over to where you can disable them? A third potential problem is acceleratory forces of the car. This can be used, as we all know from the movies . All sorts difficulties might arise when a passenger tries to grab the wheel. (Whether or not you are that passanger)
Warp Spider Posted July 11, 2003 Posted July 11, 2003 Splash your coffee on em. Paladin - A holy beat down in the name of God!
StoneSkin Posted July 11, 2003 Posted July 11, 2003 attacking the driver of a moving vehicle is a good way to get killed. remember you are not james bond.
TJS Posted July 12, 2003 Posted July 12, 2003 elbow or hammer fist...both would work well from the side.
Tibby Posted July 12, 2003 Posted July 12, 2003 How about you just avoid getting into cars with people who want to fight you!? If you have to, take a hint from Morphous in Matrix Reloaded, and use the seat belt properly… that is, as a restraint
martialartist1 Posted July 12, 2003 Posted July 12, 2003 defending yourself in a car? simple: 1) look 2) sense 3) distance and timing 4) take action
G95champ Posted July 12, 2003 Posted July 12, 2003 Speed up really fast then HIT the breaks. LOL (General George S. Patton Jr.) "It's the unconquerable soul of man, and not the nature of the weapon he uses, that ensures victory."
delta1 Posted July 13, 2003 Posted July 13, 2003 You are attacked by someone sitting next to you in a car. Good scenario, and a good example of why you need to know how to apply principles instead of just moves. You are in a tight space, seated, and your attacker is to the side. Your first priorities are to get your hips squared to your opponent and get some kind of mobile base under you while preventing him from doing the same. Twist to face him and get a knee under you on the seat. You can at least move better this way even in the restricted space. You can also now start using your hips to add power to your techniques. If you can grab his near side arm and pull as you torque into your 'stance' this will control his depth and width momentarily, keeping him side on to you. It will also disrupt his ballance and pull him in where you can take the initiative and work him over. But you are going to be 'kissing close', because he probably moved toward you to attack and you've brought him on in closer. Your primary skills here would be a good in close arsenal and grappling. Heel palms, elbows, finger techniques, and with one foot on the floor you can still use the knee from the seat. Some joint locks take a lot of space to apply, but some are really good for in close grappling. Chokes would be excellent. Use your environment. If you get the chance, wedge him in betwen the front seats. Bend him, or parts of him, over the seats. Stuff him into the floorboard and work him over. And fight like a maniac with nothing held back, because he'll probably be happy to do the same to you if he gets the upper hand. If you get squared to him but your butt is still on the seat then you have four primary weapons facing him. Get some kicks going, especially target knees if you can catch him with a foot planted. Mid section kicks push him away, possibly against a window where another kick to the head can sandwich him. If he's on you too close for kicks, use in close stand up grappling skills to make room, then go to work. The what if's and possibilities here are endless. But it would be an interesting scenario based training exercise. If you cary a SD weapon, try deploying it from your normal carry position while under a 'full' attack like this. Might be an eye opener. And don't forget that assailants often have weapons too. Good topic. Makes you think. Freedom isn't free!
Tombstone Posted July 13, 2003 Posted July 13, 2003 Who's driving? And why listen to someone thats unarmed? I'm driving: I wouldn't be. He's driving: Alot of head strikes and stomp the brakes. (hopefully before the car picks up speed )
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