tommarker Posted July 11, 2003 Posted July 11, 2003 Well, it *is* an effective blocking technique. I think you should try to come up with a few ways to steal the person's balance. It's hard to be sturdy when you stand on one foot, so what kind of techniques could you use to put him on his butt? I have a few ideas and ways of dealing with people who like to throw this block out in sparring, but I'd like to hear your ideas before I just give you my answer I'm no longer posting here. Adios.
Bart the Lover Posted July 11, 2003 Posted July 11, 2003 CheekyMusician wrote:'Cause he's one of these guys who is doesn't seem to have much respect for the girls in the class How does this lack of respect manifest itself? Is it just a feeling you get? Your instructor(s) should not allow the men to treat the women with disrespect. You have the right to be treated as an equal. The club does not belong to the men. As far as knee-on-shin goes, shinpads will only protect you from light contact. I would suggest conditioning your shins. I remember from one of your posts that you own a heavy bag; try kicking this as hard as you can, regularly, using bare legs. Maybe someone could de-spider your loft first?! Regards, Bart the Lover
CheekyMusician Posted July 11, 2003 Author Posted July 11, 2003 Well, it *is* an effective blocking technique. I think you should try to come up with a few ways to steal the person's balance. It's hard to be sturdy when you stand on one foot, so what kind of techniques could you use to put him on his butt? I have a few ideas and ways of dealing with people who like to throw this block out in sparring, but I'd like to hear your ideas before I just give you my answer It sure is effective! To be honest I'm not very good with blocking kicks at the best of times never mind knees. I'm going to try and avoid sparring with him in the future, I think, and if I can't then I'll just have to watch out for a knee flying towards me. To be honest, he caught me a bit by surprise at the time, but even if I'd known the knee was coming I don't have a clue as to how I would have defended myself other than stepping back out the way of it. Smile. It makes people wonder what you've been up to.
CheekyMusician Posted July 11, 2003 Author Posted July 11, 2003 CheekyMusician wrote:'Cause he's one of these guys who is doesn't seem to have much respect for the girls in the class How does this lack of respect manifest itself? Is it just a feeling you get? Your instructor(s) should not allow the men to treat the women with disrespect. You have the right to be treated as an equal. The club does not belong to the men. As far as knee-on-shin goes, shinpads will only protect you from light contact. I would suggest conditioning your shins. I remember from one of your posts that you own a heavy bag; try kicking this as hard as you can, regularly, using bare legs. Maybe someone could de-spider your loft first?! Regards, Bart the Lover I'm surprised that you remember so much about me and my spidery loft and punch bag. Heehee The guy is still a teenager. I'm pretty bad at judging ages, but I'd say that he's about 17 or 18. He avoids sparring with the females in the club unless he gets forced to partner up with one, and then he either turns really patronising, or turns really tough and tries to hurt you. I mean, don't get me wrong, I love it when someone tries to help me out when I'm having difficulty, but this guy doesn't so much help you out as pick fault with you (although you never see him doing this to the boys and men in the club). I also don't mind getting smacked in the face now and again, after all we're in a martial arts class not a ballet school, but although this boy is fairly laid back when sparring with the boys (or so it seems), he either puts his full power into every technique he performs with the girls, or goes patronisingly slowly and announces every move before he performs it (even if the female he's sparring with is higher ranked than him). I might be looking too much into the whole thing, though. Maybe he doesn't realise what he does is offensive to the females in the club. I don't particularly dislike the boy. He's not very often at the club, but when he is he's usually quite friendly and chatty, so maybe his actions are unintentional. Smile. It makes people wonder what you've been up to.
tommarker Posted July 12, 2003 Posted July 12, 2003 We had a kid like that, until one of the women in the club side kicked him... really hard... into a wall. And then chased him around the room for the next 45 seconds without giving him a single chance to get a single technique out.. He was practically running backwards from this woman He didn't realize he was sparring with a 4th Dan in IsshinRyu who was only a "lowly brown belt" in Tang Soo Do. I'm no longer posting here. Adios.
delta1 Posted July 12, 2003 Posted July 12, 2003 He didn't realize he was sparring with a 4th Dan in IsshinRyu who was only a "lowly brown belt" in Tang Soo Do. Can you say 'sandbaged,? Ya gotta love it! Try faking the kick, then sweeping him or traping the raised knee. Or fake the lower and hammer him with a high kick (one of the TKD guys I spar with does this to me every once in a while- sometimes it works, sometimes he ends on his butt- might be worth trying). Another thing you might do is bring the kick up at 45' so it won't meet his check at a right angle. It would also be easier to redirect this a little higher to go over his leg (knee) check and still get in under the guard. Then hammer the punk, don't let him recover. Freedom isn't free!
tommarker Posted July 12, 2003 Posted July 12, 2003 I 100% agree with Delta1... make it your goal to figure out how to knock that kid on his butt! I'm no longer posting here. Adios.
Kamidake Posted July 12, 2003 Posted July 12, 2003 Go get him, Cheeky Musician! Hope you feel better and you get the opportunity to make him feel worse. I got my first owie the other day (I'm starting my 3rd month). Nothing as bad as yours. Mine came from my teacher who was showing me how to pinch a nerve in your arm. Yipe! That hurts! And then he kept telling me to dig harder in HIS arm. I'm glad he didn't pinch me half as hard as he made me pinch him!
pmh1nic Posted July 12, 2003 Posted July 12, 2003 You may want to get an x-ray if the pain persist. There might be a hairline fracture. If someone throws a relatively low roundhouse kick I was trained to lift the leg on the side the kick is coming. That may account for the contact with your sparring partner's knee. I was sparring with a guy who threw a roundhouse kick to towards my ribs that got "instinctively" blocked by my elbow. His instep blew up like a balloon. The dropping and pulling in of my elbows wasn't intentionally meant to hurt him but to protect my ribs. "The longer I live the more convincing proofs I see of this truth, that God governs in the affairs of men. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without His notice, is it probable that an empire can rise without His aid?" Benjamin Franklin
Bart the Lover Posted July 18, 2003 Posted July 18, 2003 CheekyMusician wrote:He avoids sparring with the females in the club unless he gets forced to partner up with one, and then he either turns really patronising, or turns really tough and tries to hurt you. What a pillock!He's not very often at the club, but when he is he's usually quite friendly and chatty, so maybe his actions are unintentional. Hmmm. A pleasant persona can hide all kinds of unpleasant attitudes and prejudices. Still, if he isn't often there, I think your best bet is to simply avoid him as much as possible. But if you do spar with him, confront him when his behaviour is unacceptable. If his is patronising, tell him. If he is going too hard, give him a couple of warnings, and if he persists, hit him hard. Alternatively, you could fake an episode and 'accidently' kick him in the Balzacs...froth at the mouth for added realism... Regards, Bart the Lover
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