Shorin Ryuu Posted August 2, 2003 Posted August 2, 2003 Don’t believe that mess about it never being and farming utensil. The Sai-like weapons from China had much over blades. If anything, the Jutte came from the Chinese weapon. But we agree the yare all weapons. I’ve been a Sumo fan for a while now, and no one I know how is a Sumo fan places the sport over the Ritual, seeing as the sport is part of the Ritual. So, you classify the Shot Putt as a Martial Art, but not Boxing? Yeah, I’m looking into Asian History as a minor. PM me sometime. I said the shot put wasn't a martial art because of the way they train in shot put. Martial Arts Blog:http://bujutsublogger.blogspot.com/
Tibby Posted August 3, 2003 Posted August 3, 2003 Don’t believe that mess about it never being and farming utensil. The Sai-like weapons from China had much over blades. If anything, the Jutte came from the Chinese weapon. But we agree the yare all weapons. I’ve been a Sumo fan for a while now, and no one I know how is a Sumo fan places the sport over the Ritual, seeing as the sport is part of the Ritual. So, you classify the Shot Putt as a Martial Art, but not Boxing? Yeah, I’m looking into Asian History as a minor. PM me sometime. I said the shot put wasn't a martial art because of the way they train in shot put. Who so? The Shot is ed from a Classic weapon of the Tribes of Northern and Western Europe. Why is the way something in trained effects wither it is a Sport or a Martial Art? Shot put, they pratice by actually throwing, and they pratice kata, they work on just form. Many Martial Arts pratice by sparring and by doing Kata. Why does training differently effect the fact that they are Martial Art or not? Mauy Thai and Judo are trained very differently, but they are both Martial Arts. As I recall:To me, martial arts must have origins in true fighting or on the battlefiel You said nothign about training. The only prerequisite for being a Martial Art you have mentions is for it to have origins in combat for some kind. That being the case, no, Sumo would not be a Martial Art, but that would also mean the Shot Put is a Martial Art.
Shorin Ryuu Posted August 3, 2003 Posted August 3, 2003 Also, Olympic events. Yeah, the javelin throw obviously came from training to use it in combat, but the way they train in it now is very different. In kyuudo (archery) for example, there is a lot of focus on the accuracy and things like that, whereas javelin is simply distance. However, shooting might be considered a martial art due to its different emphasis. But I would be more inclined to say that combat pistol competitions are closer to martial arts then just sport competitions. You get my point, I think. That's where I mentioned about training. Anyway, its apparent that our differences are in opinion, so I'm not going to convince you or vice versa. Thanks for the discussion, though, it made me think about it. Martial Arts Blog:http://bujutsublogger.blogspot.com/
sansoouser Posted August 3, 2003 Posted August 3, 2003 there was a 190 lbs sumo winning The amateur shoots his hands out ferociously, but lacks any true power. A master is not so flamboyant, but his touch is as heavy as a mountain.
Tibby Posted August 3, 2003 Posted August 3, 2003 Shorin Ryuu- Yeah, it was fun. Maybe we can lock hones again soon. sansoouser- Yeha, some of those guys are fast. Get a fast enough judoka with descent strength in there, I think he might do well. Movements and such are so similer, as I said before, if the JudoKa had some power behind his moves, it would be an interesting match to watch.
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