granmasterchen Posted June 30, 2003 Posted June 30, 2003 it's nice to have honor in the dojo, but when it comes to street fights there is no honor and no holding back, in the dojo there should be respect though That which does not destroy me will only make me stronger
Treebranch Posted July 1, 2003 Posted July 1, 2003 Yeah, I agree. If someone attacks they will get no respect or honor from me. "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience.""Lock em out or Knock em out"
granmasterchen Posted July 1, 2003 Posted July 1, 2003 thanks for the support treebranch, i thought that i might have strayed from the topic in my logic That which does not destroy me will only make me stronger
ninjanurse Posted July 1, 2003 Posted July 1, 2003 Honor=pay respect to Anything I respect, I honor. Respect is earned, not demanded. Therefore honor is not blind submission, it is given willfully. "A Black Belt is only the beginning."Heidi-A student of the artsTae Kwon Do,Shotokan,Ju Jitsu,Modern Arnishttp://the100info.tumblr.com/
Treebranch Posted July 1, 2003 Posted July 1, 2003 Very nicely put Ninjanurse. Ninjanurse did you ever study Ninjutsu? "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience.""Lock em out or Knock em out"
battousai16 Posted July 2, 2003 Posted July 2, 2003 "It would be an honor for me to pay you master.....?" i may be a little late with this post, but i figured i'd say this anyway. i live in a very small city outside of madison. we really don't have many dojos, and the ones we do have are courses offered inside other buildings (we do, however, have a karate america, for those of you who participated in that post. remember the guy about his daughter and the mcdojo? yeah, that's the one). the one i went to was held in a small auxillary gym in a junior high school. my sensei was getting up there in years and was getting a bad back. the main school was in sun prairie, which is about an hour away from me when traffic and weather was good. on top of that, his car was not the most dependable thing ever. eventually, the cost of renting out the gym became to much, and he had to discontinue classes there. he felt really bad about doing this, especially for me, because i was really the only person who came regularly (small town, most people goto karate america) and i was quite close to achieving my black belt. he felt so guilty about his, that he actually refused to let me pay him any longer for classes. the tuition was absolutely free of charge for the rest of my life. i still had to pay for tests, weapons, tournament fees, etc., but tuition was free, and life was good. there was a school farther in madison, only about 35 minutes away from me, so i was able to continue (i was fairly young, about 12, and i had to count on my father to get me there, who had a work schedule of his own and really dosen't believe in the martial arts. i love, respect, and admire him for doing that for me very much). what i found out later was that he actually offered free tuition to several of his students. everyone else who went to the verona school got the offer, as well as people who were having money issues. this eventually lead to a large lack of funds. the madison school got moved to a gym in a high school, where that was then discontined. i haven't heard from my sensei since or the school since. i assume it was shut down and he moved on. i love, admire, and respect him very much for that. there's another thread around here about idols. he's mine. sorry, didn't mean to make this so long, i guess there was more to the story than i thought. i even forgot what my point is. hopefully you can find it in my rant, "I hear you can kill 200 men and play a mean six string at the same time..."-Six String Samurai
battousai16 Posted July 2, 2003 Posted July 2, 2003 OH! now i remember! you can't judge whether or not there is honor in the world based on your personal experiences, because the world stretches so far beyond what you know. especially, for example, someone like me, where i live in a small town in america, where i'm completely sheltered from the rest of the world. maybe the people with honor by the definition of shotochem only lies in a small handful of people, but just because you don't know them dosen't mean that they don't exist. i guess i'm just interprating the old adage "you can't spell the word 'assume' without making an @$$ out of 'u' (you) and 'me' (me)". "I hear you can kill 200 men and play a mean six string at the same time..."-Six String Samurai
shotochem Posted July 2, 2003 Posted July 2, 2003 My general beef is with those who demand and expect you to pay hommage to their greatness. I have seen a few of those but granted they were Mc Dojo. I have also met instructoers with 30-40 yrs of teaching experience that would get angry is you made a fuss over them. It really depends on the person. I just do not believe in blind faith in anyone. My respect is freely given when it is earned. Pain is only temporary, the memory of that pain lasts a lifetime.
ninjanurse Posted July 2, 2003 Posted July 2, 2003 Very nicely put Ninjanurse. Ninjanurse did you ever study Ninjutsu? Thank you. No, I haven't but you never know what the future holds. "A Black Belt is only the beginning."Heidi-A student of the artsTae Kwon Do,Shotokan,Ju Jitsu,Modern Arnishttp://the100info.tumblr.com/
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