Charlie Posted December 19, 2005 Posted December 19, 2005 Mas Oyama also trained for a long time in Judo which I believe also taught ground grappling.
Protoman7000 Posted December 20, 2005 Posted December 20, 2005 hm, it seems like Bruce Lee was way over rated for a while, when you hear about Bruce Lee, the complete best, however, now, it seems he is much too under rated. He was small, but Bruce Lee had alot of power in those small arms, and could most likely dish out a punch just as strong as say, Chuck Liddell, and I've seen some of his videos of real life stuff where he's displaying his speed, even if he couldn't hit quite as hard, the speed in which he would be hitting times the number of hits he could quickly land, then dang! However, what gets alot of us on this is the ground game, we've seen some awesome ground and pound in the UFC now days, and it really is hard to say whether or not Bruce could withstand, not to mention, some of his methods for that were for actual survival, such as what we all know as his biting trick. Because of this 1 fatal error, maybe he would do poorly against a big hulking brute rolling him around on the ground, maybe not, but hey his stand up would be very great, I believe someone said "his side-kick was like getting hit by a car." Maybe a little exagerrated but it goes to show you, powerful.
SubGrappler Posted December 20, 2005 Posted December 20, 2005 Im not saying Bruce couldnt hit hard, but Liddell is 70 lbs heavier than he was, aside from being quite an accomplished striker himself- no chance Bruce hit as hard as he did.
Just me Posted May 30, 2007 Posted May 30, 2007 If he would be alive, he wouldt be fighting in UFC because he trained for streets and self-defence! From UFC website:Fouls: 1. Butting with the head. 2. Eye gouging of any kind. 3. Biting. 4. Hair pulling. 5. Fish hooking. 6. Groin attacks of any kind. 7. Putting a finger into any orifice or into any cut or laceration on an opponent. 8. Small joint manipulation. 9. Striking to the spine or the back of the head. 10. Striking downward using the point of the elbow. 11. Throat strikes of any kind, including, without limitation, grabbing the trachea. 12. Clawing, pinching or twisting the flesh. 13. Grabbing the clavicle. 14. Kicking the head of a grounded opponent. 15. Kneeing the head of a grounded opponent. 16. Stomping a grounded opponent. 17. Kicking to the kidney with the heel. 18. Spiking an opponent to the canvas on his head or neck. 19. Throwing an opponent out of the ring or fenced area. 20. Holding the shorts or gloves of an opponent. 21. Spitting at an opponent. 22. Engaging in an unsportsmanlike conduct that causes an injury to an opponent. 23. Holding the ropes or the fence. 24. Using abusive language in the ring or fenced area. 25. Attacking an opponent on or during the break. 26. Attacking an opponent who is under the care of the referee. 27. Attacking an opponent after the bell has sounded the end of the period of unarmed combat. 28. Flagrantly disregarding the instructions of the referee. 29. Timidity, including, without limitation, avoiding contact with an opponent, intentionally or consistently dropping the mouthpiece or faking an injury. 30. Interference by the corner. 31. Throwing in the towel during competition. Bruce trained for streets and in the streets, there are no limits but in UFC, there are rules.
bushido_man96 Posted May 30, 2007 Posted May 30, 2007 Even though Bruce would be giving up weight in relation to Liddell, his striking power was still amazing. His speed is what made him so dangerous. Could he have out-struck Liddell? Possibly. We can't know for sure. However, Bruce was known to be a heavy hitter, too. https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com
wingedMonkey Posted October 4, 2007 Posted October 4, 2007 22. Engaging in an unsportsmanlike conduct that causes an injury to an opponent. A lot of people forget this one and go all out in UFC but you actually aren't supposed to.Oh and I recently read an article about Bruce Lee in the new issue of Black Belt Magazine and they talk about how they would ask him why he wouldn't fight in competition and he mainly said because you would have to hold back and there were so many restrictions. So yeah, I believe Bruce would totally pwn at UFC but he would be kicked out for too many fouls/killing. "If I tell you I'm good, you would probably think I'm boasting, but if I tell you I'm no good, you know I'm lying." - Bruce Lee
bushido_man96 Posted October 4, 2007 Posted October 4, 2007 Oh and I recently read an article about Bruce Lee in the new issue of Black Belt Magazine and they talk about how they would ask him why he wouldn't fight in competition and he mainly said because you would have to hold back and there were so many restrictions. So yeah, I believe Bruce would totally pwn at UFC but he would be kicked out for too many fouls/killing. I am not so sure. The only way he would do that was through rules infractions, and if he were to compete (which I am convinced he would not) I do believe that he would do so within the spirit of the competition. I also believe that to be competitive he would have to spend some time getting a bit better at ground fighting. I think that he knew the advantages of ground fighting, but may have needed a bit more training in it to compete at this level. https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com
wingedMonkey Posted October 5, 2007 Posted October 5, 2007 Yea, hehe, that's the point bushido_man, he would NEVER join because he wouldn't want to fight like that, so it would basically never happen, he said himself he didn't want to compete when he was alive. "If I tell you I'm good, you would probably think I'm boasting, but if I tell you I'm no good, you know I'm lying." - Bruce Lee
bushido_man96 Posted October 5, 2007 Posted October 5, 2007 Yea, hehe, that's the point bushido_man, he would NEVER join because he wouldn't want to fight like that, so it would basically never happen, he said himself he didn't want to compete when he was alive.I agree that he didn't want to compete. However, this kind of competition may have been more geared to Lee's ideals. But, that is neither here nor there, and we are left with what he has said: most likely not. https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com
wingedMonkey Posted October 5, 2007 Posted October 5, 2007 Yea, I love how he opened up the idea of learning everything to everyone too.. "If I tell you I'm good, you would probably think I'm boasting, but if I tell you I'm no good, you know I'm lying." - Bruce Lee
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