Aikido vs Your Striking Art

[Gilbert]

Sounds like your dojo focuses on more combat oriented aikido than we did. The attacks we were usually given were these fully committed "I'm coming at you from across the room" type haymakers or simple wrist grabs and such. We did have similar questions about how aikido would handle the swiftness of a boxer or a WC guy because aikido seems to take best advantage of a strike with a good degree of commitment. Something like chain punching or a jab ... while not counter to this idea ... is certainly more difficult because of its timing and speed.I commented somewhere else about aikido's lack of striking (I forget where). It certainly involves strikes, but to varying degrees depending on the teacher. Some use it only for distraction. Others show you when to apply it when you create the openings during application of technique. Others apparently go all out and you better hang on . Sounds like you're part of the last group, which seems a little more like Daito ryu. I was more of the second group ... but wondered why we never trained in the strikes we were supposed to use if the situation required it. I got the response of, "If you have to strike, it's no longer aikido." (Hey, if I have to use something other than aikido to keep my rear end from getting handed to me, I'll do it. Show me the atemi!!)

 

In any event, it's good to hear that the two styles are working so well for you.

 

well first thank you and hope everything is going well for you too.

 

they did teach us everything you describe and it helps you. i know its kinda rare when someone grabs your wrists. unless your a women....the boyfriend or a thief is gonna grab a girl..but its rare on a male. but all this is teaching you to familiarize all the techniques being taught on grabs. later on when someone strikes you, youll apply the techniques very easy. you wont even be tense or nervous.. always relax. now i would advice you...because you sound like a striking person(dont worry me too). if you practice aikido still..practice it but dont lose your punching techniques or kicking techniques. practice hitting the bag or kicking. that way your gonna be a good puncher,a good kicker, and know aikido all in one, or other styles you enjoy.

 

well take care....any questions feel free.

[47MartialMan]

Yeah, the male grabbing male wrist grabs, lapel grabs, sleeve grabs, belt grabs, were a little far out of the ordinary. But learning the "mechanics" of it, was somewhat useful. Wrist grabbing was very helpful for female self defense.

[Drunken_Apprentice]

... but all this is teaching you to familiarize all the techniques being taught on grabs. later on when someone strikes you, youll apply the techniques very easy. you wont even be tense or nervous.. always relax. now i would advice you...because you sound like a striking person(dont worry me too). if you practice aikido still..practice it but dont lose your punching techniques or kicking techniques. practice hitting the bag or kicking. that way your gonna be a good puncher,a good kicker, and know aikido all in one, or other styles you enjoy ...

 

Aikido, from my experience, teaches a good deal about combat theory: how to maintain balance, keep your center and move with it, maintain proper distance, and blend with attacks, whether they are form one person or many. However, taking this approach is very time consuming ... though I do believe in the end it will produce a very good martial artist.

 

I've developed the opinion over the years that aikido is one of those arts that is great to learn after having a good foundation in a striking or grappling art. I think there will be a much greater level of appreciation for it, as well as a greater understanding of how it fits in to combat application. Jumping into aikido with no other art under my belt ... so to speak ... was a disadvantage.

 

Chances are, I'm going to study some combination of striking and grappling for a while (like a Straight Blast Gym program or something) and then come back to aikido. I think I will appreciate it - and be able to understand its application - a lot more.

[47MartialMan]

Yeah, I believe Aikido, or AikiJitsu, have their value, I like other JJ, can be useful in combination with other MA.

[Gilbert]

drunken apprentice..

 

dont feel that way...because in fact you will be a good aikido martial artist.

 

why? well you have no other experiences you got use to. so learning aikido for you..will be simpler and better for you. you wont have other studys to confuse you. ofcourse if it suits you..hit the bag or kick it. but try not to study so many arts because youll never learn the true art. youll just have so many techniques to be learning from and youll get confuse. i would advice(its just an advice) stick with one art, and practice punching and kicking. youll will a good fighter. but maintain discipline. dont go about looking for fights.

 

 

 

well good luck man

[Gilbert]

Battle of the Arts

 

Aikido vs. Taekwondo

 

by Jaime Barron

 

Aikido versus taekwondo. It's an intriguing matchup of a "soft" style against a "hard" combat system, wrist locks and throws versus kicking and punching, the "way of harmony" against the "way of hands and feet," and a Japanese art versus a Korean style.

 

 

WHAT THE HECK IS THIS....boy do you have an imaginition or what. well if it was your immagination and you took hours to write this..then im sorry i have to say this but...you stink at fighting. do you even know what your saying. "soft vs. hard. way of harmony vs. hands and feet, japanese art versus a korean style" . i can tell your a tae kwon do practitioner.

 

now let me tell you a story thats true. i have a friend who knows no art...no boxing but likes strikes. he has a cousin who was in tae kwon do.. they fought with gloves and the other guy was using kicks. less than ten seconds. he got knocked down...i tried to hold down the laugh but couldnt.

 

now im not offending the art but the person who wrote this. i know tae kwon do is a good art. but plz follow the art and learn, dont fantasize, or brag about how you this and that. cause that is what happened to my friends cousin. it dont matter about the belts but the knowledge one has and the skill.

[Shorin Ryuu]

Just two things I would like to comment on.

 

I've never fully trained with an aikido school, but I have attended some classes, had some friends that did and am currently taking a classical form of Japanese jujitsu. Take it for what its worth.

 

I believe there is a reason for a lot of the "over telegraphed" attacks that aikido practitioners defend against. Simply put, the beginner in aikido has to first be able to readily identify an attack, but more importantly, he or she has to be able to manipulate the attack's energy. For beginners, it is highly difficult to manipulate anything other than an opponent's attack that is fully committed. Later, as the person becomes more sensitive, these ridiculous attacks become less and less ridiculous and begin (should begin) to model more realistic attacks. Even in karate, some self-defense techniques are first taught in slow motion until the person gets used to it. Since aikido is a soft art, the body has to become very sensitive, and in the beginning, the introduction of opponent's energy has to be more blatant than in a real fight. Even in karate, the soft manipulation of an opponent's energy is something that has to be gained over time and be attuned from experience. You just have to make sure that you don't spend forever in the beginning stage.

 

Everyone bags on the wrist grab or the shoulder grab. I think in their defense, they are more common than most people realize. If you get into any sort of grappling situation, of course you don't start out with someone grabbing your wrist, or your shoulder. But usually in the scuffle, hands switch and transition and you find yourself in a position the same or similar to something you learned about in class (wrist grab). As 47MartialMan intimated, it is the concepts behind them that prove the most useful.

[47MartialMan]

I generally dislike the term "style". I like the term "system". To me, my interpretation of "style", is more of a individual concept from erudition.

[kepundengz2003]

Battle of the Arts

 

Aikido vs. Taekwondo

 

by Jaime Barron

 

Aikido versus taekwondo. It's an intriguing matchup of a "soft" style against a "hard" combat system, wrist locks and throws versus kicking and punching, the "way of harmony" against the "way of hands and feet," and a Japanese art versus a Korean style.

 

 

WHAT THE HECK IS THIS....boy do you have an imaginition or what. well if it was your immagination and you took hours to write this..then im sorry i have to say this but...you stink at fighting. do you even know what your saying. "soft vs. hard. way of harmony vs. hands and feet, japanese art versus a korean style" . i can tell your a tae kwon do practitioner.

 

now let me tell you a story thats true. i have a friend who knows no art...no boxing but likes strikes. he has a cousin who was in tae kwon do.. they fought with gloves and the other guy was using kicks. less than ten seconds. he got knocked down...i tried to hold down the laugh but couldnt.

 

now im not offending the art but the person who wrote this. i know tae kwon do is a good art. but plz follow the art and learn, dont fantasize, or brag about how you this and that. cause that is what happened to my friends cousin. it dont matter about the belts but the knowledge one has and the skill.

 

whoooops! What a pity! seems that you are jumping into conclusion without reading and understanding the whole article! It's taken from Black Belt Magazine archive, mind you and it's NOT my own writing. As far as my judgement goes, BBM has a lot of articles on arts comparation, and I found that most (if not all) of the articles were quite fair, pointing the pros and cons of both arts in the comparison and suggests ideas on how to evade or counter each other's techniques. Then, what's wrong, man?!

[Kreisi]

well you (if you do aikido) would have advantage of grappling.