Aikido vs Your Striking Art

[Treebranch]

Aikido teaches you how to move and to use your opponents force and balance against them. Controlling someone's balance is the most important aspect of fighting, without balance what good are you? Aikido teaches this well. It is not an easy art to learn, but once you do it can be devasting to an attacker.

[Fenris-wolf]

You know, I never thought about it like that? Every time I think about being provoked into a fight it has always bothered me that one of my main strengths is pretty well out (I do not want to break my fist on anybodys face!) and also that if they throw the first punch but you dodge it and then kick their * you'll still look bad... Being female and not that big I don't particularly want to give them a chance to get into a strong position. Locks being an alternative is a very good idea! Seriously, Guy_who_fights , thats given me some real food for thought.

 

Thanks!

[White Warlock]

In all honesty i wouldnt swap my MT for Aikido but i will add it. I see your point but i wouldnt rate Aikido over MT in a straight fight but in the avoidance and prefight part or dealing with drunks etc its great.

And i wouldn't argue this.

 

What i noted when i taught conflict resolution courses, as the most important aspect to being effective in de-escalating, is having the confidence in knowing that, if all else fails, you will be able to handle the outcome. Having such confidence removes the little frozen-spot in the eyes and the high-pitch in the voice that triggers the predator's 'pounce.' Having muay thai to fallback on can increase your effectiveness in de-escalating, or resolving, a conflict. And, it helps further in having a system, such as aikido, that allows you to provide less lethal options (and thus less legal consequence) should talk and posture prove insufficient.

 

In short, if you have nothing to lose by going physical (including no danger of being incarcerated), your threat will recognize this and realize that someone must have something to lose. Being there is only you and them... connect the dots.

 

Good discussion

 

[turonaga]

i've always considered aikido to be a superior art but if the aikidoka is weak i'll pummel him with my striking art.

[JEM618]

What it all boils down to is that Aikido is the 'art of not fighting'.

 

[sansoouser]

I've seen some really good Aikido guys before, who just throw people punching at them easily. I also hear it takes along time to be proficient at it.

 

How does Aikido compare to Judo?

[sansoouser]

A hard throw on a hard surface like pavement can do some major damage.

 

Especially to a person who doesn't know how to fall, or a throw that will land them on their head or face. I've always prefered grappling to striking, so no matter what anyone says that will be the basis of my skill, but I still think striking is important.

[kepundengz2003]

Concerning on the topic of this thread, I have one good article which I have saved from Black Belt Magazine archive [august 1996 edition]. However, the technique pictures were taken out from the article's technique page, I don't know why. However the detailed steps are there. TKD vs Aikido!!!

 

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Battle of the Arts

 

Aikido vs. Taekwondo

 

by Jaime Barron

 

Aikido versus taekwondo. It's an intriguing matchup of a "soft" style against a "hard" combat system, wrist locks and throws versus kicking and punching, the "way of harmony" against the "way of hands and feet," and a Japanese art versus a Korean style.

 

There is no question that aikido and taekwondo are radically different methods of self-defense. Taekwondo, with its particularly strong emphasis on kicking, and aikido, which stresses nonviolence and focuses on evading rather than striking an attacker, make for an interesting comparison indeed aikido practitioners always attempt to go with the flow of an attack, blend with the assailant's motion and turn his own momentum against him. Never do aikidoka try to meet an attacker's force head-on with force of their own. Taekwondo stylists, on the other hand, are taught to move straight in, attack and knock out the opponent. Whereas aikido is almost completely defensive in nature, taekwondo is, by design, more aggressive and offensive with regard to fighting strategy.

 

Following is a closer examination of the combat tactics of both systems.

 

Aikido's Advantages

 

Aikido is a very subtle martial art. An accomplished aikido stylist will wait for his opponent to commit to a technique, then will respond to it with any of a variety of deflection/takedown/throwing maneuvers.

 

In a confrontation against a taekwondo practitioner, an aikidoka would try to maintain a safe distance beyond kicking range. This prevents his opponent from delivering his preferred techniques and affords the aikido stylist more time to react if and when an attack comes.

 

 

 

Technique Page

 

An accomplished aikido practitioner would try to set up a taekwondo stylist for a quick takedown in an attempt to finish the confrontation as quickly as possible. The aikidoka will not attack first; he will wait until the taekwondo practitioner commits to a move. If there is going to be a fight, the taekwondo stylist will have to initiate it. Once his opponent attacks, the aikido exponent will counter with a wrist or arm lock, or a throw. For example, if the taekwondo practitioner attempts a front kick, the aikidoka will sidestep the technique at a 45degree angle and get close enough to hook his hand under Me opponent's kicking leg. The aikido stylist is now in good position to disrupt his adversary's balance and throw him to Me ground.

 

If the taekwondo practitioner unleashes a spinning back kick, the aikido stylist would blend with the attack by moving in the same direction as his opponent. By melding with his adversary's actions, the aikidoka is able to get into position to disrupt the taekwondo practitioner's balance and can then easily take him down.

 

If the taekwondo exponent delivers a kick to the rib cage, the aikido practitioner will once again blend with the attack. For example, if the taekwondo stylist uses his right foot to try to kick the ribs, the aikidoka will move to his right, away from the point of attack. After sidestepping away from the kick the aikido practitioner reverses his direction, grabs the opponent's kicking foot, and throws his adversary to the ground. A painful ankle lock is an effective follow-up technique.

 

Taekwondo's Advantages

 

The taekwondo stylist's primary advantage is his arsenal of Ivicking and punching techniques. He wants to maintain a fighting distance tat will allow him to connect with a powerful kick or punch. The taekwondo practitioner should remain relaxed and keep moving against his more stationary aikido opponent. The taekwondo exponent doesn't want to commit fully to an attack until he is sure the aikidoka will no be able to nullify and counter the technique. The taekwondo stylist should also be ready to quickly launch a countermeasure in case his first attack misses its target.

 

One technique the taekwondo stylist might find effective involves first faking a side kick several times to see how the aikido practitioner reacts. If the aikidoka establishes a predictable pattern of movement, the taekwondo fighter will have an easier time setting up and scoring with a real full-force kick.

 

Combining kicks with striking techniques can also be an effective strategy for the taekwondo practitioner. For example, if the taekwondo fighter misses his target with his first kick, and the aikido stylist parries the technique, the taekwondo expert can quickly counterattack with a straight punch to the face or stomach because he is now in punching range.

 

The taekwondo practitioner can also deliver combinations of kicks to his opponent. For example, if the taekwondo stylist attacks with a front kick, and the aikidoka sidesteps the technique, the taekwondo fighter is in good position to quickly counterattack with a spinning side kick and strike his adversary in the midsection.

 

Aikido and taekwondo share few-if any-similarities. The aikido stylist wants to avoid a force-against-force confrontation, preferring instead to evade and then blend with his opponent's initial strike, disrupt his attacker's balance and take him to the ground. The taekwondo fighter, on the other hand, wants to create enough distance to connect with one of his vaunted kicking techniques. If that fails, he will follow up with punches. Both systems can be lethal in the hands of a highly trained practitioner.

 

 

 

About the author: Jaime Barron is a law student at Southern Methodist University in Dallas and possesses background in both aikido and taekwondo.

 

Technique Page [This is the page where the pictures are removed from]

 

 

 

In this sequence (left side of photos), the taekwondo stylist launches (1) a mid-level roundhouse kick which the aikido practitioner attempts to catch. Upon noticing the aikidoka's intentions, the taekwondo stylist reloads and delivers (2) the kick to the head, knocking (1) his opponent to the ground.

 

 

 

 

 

An aikido stylist (right) is faced (1) with a taekwondo fighter who attempts (2) a front kick. The aikido practitioner sidesteps the technique and catches (3) his opponent’s kicking leg, delivering a simultaneous hand strike to the face. The maneuver disrupts the attacker’s balance and sets him up for a takedown (4).

 

 

 

 

 

In this self-defense series, the aikido stylist (above right) faces (1) a taekwondo fighter who attempts (2) a rear-leg roundhouse kick. The aikido practitioner sidesteps the technique slightly and catches (3) the kicking leg, simultaneously applying a painful leg took The maneuver disrupts the kicker's balance and forces him (4) to the ground, allomtlg the aikidoka to crank up Me pressure (5) in the locking technique.

 

 

 

 

 

In this self-defense scenario, the taekwondo stylist (below left) is laced (1) with an aikido practitioner. The taekwondo fighter delivers (2) a front kick, but misses his target when the aikidoka sidesteps Me technique. The taekwondo practitioner simply spins, replants (3) his kicking (right) leg, and connects (4) a left-leg back kick to the midsection.

[kepundengz2003]

Sad to find that Black Belt Magazine has closed the archive section in their website recently. I have managed to save some good articles from BBM archive before it is closed. The section served a purpose for martial art practitioner outside the US like me.

 

A sad day for martial artists.

[Shorin Ryuu]

Out of curiosity... is Wado Ryu also derived from Daito Ryu? I heard vague reference a while back to such, I think, but can't remember the whole thing completely.

 

I'm not a Wado Ryu guy (for some reason, I recall answering this question a year go, maybe? Up until yesterday, that was last time I posted...anyway...) but I believe Wado Ryu was founded by Hironori Ohtsuka who studied Shotokan under master Funakoshi. However, I think it is much lighter then Shotokan and contains some elements of judo and kendo, I believe. I've also noticed some higher, more Okinawan blocks

 

*cough* strikes *cough*

 

than in other Japanese styles of karate.

 

I've also seen a more relaxed punch than other Japanese styles of karate.