Aikido vs Your Striking Art

[broomhilda000]

What are some good qualities Aikido would have against a striking art and what are some disadvantages it would have? In aikido do you spar full contact? And what the heck is Ki?

[CloudDragon]

ok

[Warp Spider]

I though Aikido was a partially striking art..

 

As for Ki, what exactly it is is debateable. It's some kind of "internal energy" or something, but there's no apparent consensus on whether it's bioelectricity, mind over matter, or something more spiritual.

[Tibby]

Aikido is great with misdirection. Ki or not, anyone who has faced an Aikido guy cannot debate the fact that they can misdirect like there is no tomorrow. It really depends on how fast you are and how much you know about misdirection. Most of Aikido is waitign for the attacker, so you can always just be a bitch and no attack them! lol, that should throughly piss them off! lol

 

Cloaddragon- Please stop posting bullshit to boost your post count.

[Treebranch]

If you are interested in an art that is the viscious version of Aikido, look for a Daito Ryu Aikijutsu school near you. Aikijutsu is awesome.

[ltXenBobgt]

My knowledge of Aikido is limited..but, I've watched aikido classes with black belts in them, I've also seen someone try and throw a half decent punch at one of the black belts..Unless you hold your hand for a few idol seconds, they can't catch it...Im not in the best position to judge a manner like this but, I can't see how it would stand a chance against kung fu or karate,...

[TomanGaidin]

Just make sure not to judge the entirety of the art on the classes you saw . We've practiced catching punches that are retracted as soon as the strike is done - I've yet to see a black belt mistime and not get the grab, or end up in a position to do any one of several throws or locks.

 

Out of curiosity... is Wado Ryu also derived from Daito Ryu? I heard vague reference a while back to such, I think, but can't remember the whole thing completely.

[TJS]

Just make sure not to judge the entirety of the art on the classes you saw . We've practiced catching punches that are retracted as soon as the strike is done - I've yet to see a black belt mistime and not get the grab, or end up in a position to do any one of several throws or locks.

 

Out of curiosity... is Wado Ryu also derived from Daito Ryu? I heard vague reference a while back to such, I think, but can't remember the whole thing completely.

 

Just so i understand correctly, everyone can catch full speed punches that are thrown out and recoiled as quickly as possible? What type of punch? Karate punch? haymaker? Boxing punch?

[Shorinryu Sensei]

I used to teach my karate classes at a health club locally, and just as I finished my class, an Aikido class came in to sue the same room.

 

I had the opportunity to watch them on a regular basis, and did so at least once/week (my wife hated those nights). The instructor was very experienced, having been involved in the art for around 25+ years or so at that point. I believe he is one of the higher ranked inbstructors of the art in the United States. He and I had a very good relationship and frequently watched each others classes our of pure interest in seeing another art form.

 

I found Aikido to be a very worthwhile martial art, but a bit to strict and "traditional" (bowing and scraping to the sensei to much for me). I got to know the senior black belt student pretty well, to the point we would meet occasionally and have a brew and talk "shop".

 

One thing that has always stuck with me in our talks was his acknowledging one big drawback to Aikido, and that was that they had no defense against a boxer-type jab. One that shoots out fast, and retracts just as fast.

 

Aikido, as I understand it, primarily trains against the full-blown haymaker types of punches where the attacker totally commits his/her body into a blow. They are also very effective against grabs. But if you stand back and just toss jabs at them, they don't know what to do, and will eventually (I've not done it, but it only seems logical) get frustrated and tired of getting "tagged" on the nose, and would no doubt lunge in looking to get their hands on you.

 

Again, I've never trained in Aikido, and I do think it is a very viable martial art..but I can see that one weakness in the system.

[TomanGaidin]

I guess it could be most likened to a standard straight 'karate' punch. And.. not all of us can do it. Only the seniors. Though I didn't just mean the grab.. sure, a quick punch might escape them, but either way they'd have at the least moved off-line and be ready to grab and throw/lock.

 

Response to boxing style jabs and quick punches is a weakness, though, and likewise there is little in aikido's usual curriculum, from what I can tell, to defend against low kicks. Of course, the idea is not to actually be there when the kick comes - preferably a city block or two away, but... That's just the ideal. Low kicks and fast punches are a weakness, though not necessarily to all aikidoka. Me, though, definitely .

 

I think scraping to the sensei and so on, including how traditional things are, would depend largely on the dojo. I'm sure there'd be a few dojos around where everything is reasonably informal.