mikS Posted July 7, 2003 Posted July 7, 2003 It's worth noting that boxers/kickboxers/muay thai-type martial arts numb you to pain big time. Do you think boxing gloves are full of padding and foam? They're there so you don't break your hands. Look at how many times a boxer gets nailed in the face with full force without flinching. It barely has any effect. An experienced practitioner of muay thai probrably wouldn't feel a thing if you hit them in the shin. Hard work (which is what generally causes large muscles) will have a similar effect. The best approach against large, muscular opponents is arm-bars, etc. Large muscles restrict your flexibility making these attacks more painful. Large muscles tend to be very hard so unless you can punch rocks with full force and not hurt yourself, you will hurt yourself more than you hurt the target if you punch them. Sorry, but large muscles don't affect your flexibility.
mikS Posted July 7, 2003 Posted July 7, 2003 I agree with warp spider. A big guy who has lots of firm muscle will generally be able to take a pounding. ANd a boxer or a Muay Thai Practisioner will have a high tolerance for pain as well. However it depends on how much muscle they have a well built boxer will be a tough opponent. A bodybuilder will be a much easier opponent. If the guys muscles are really huge, you need to dodge and move around him all his blood will go to his muscles and he will get really really tired. When he gets tired he will get sloppy then go work on him. Generally a small guy wont beat a big guy thats why they have weight categories. A Flyweight is not going to be able to take on a heavyweight. Do you know how much cardio bodybuilders do? Usually AT LEAST 60 minutes a day. They aren't gonna get tired.
Warp Spider Posted July 7, 2003 Posted July 7, 2003 Sorry, but large muscles don't affect your flexibility. Umm.. no offense, but you're wrong. This is sheer logic. Flex your muscle. Now wrap a comforter around it as many times as you can. Your arm should now be at least twice as thick. Flex again. You'll find you can't attain as small an angle at your elbow joint. Your flexibility has a soft limit in the joints that can be altered with stretches. It has a hard limit where the two things that are jointed collide. Attempting to move beyond the soft limit causes you to "feel the stretch." Attempting to move beyond the hard limit causes actual pain as your are attempting to crush your own flesh in the biological nutcracker you've constructed. When was the last time you saw a bodybuilder walk on his hands with his legs wrapped behind his head? I dare you to find a guy over 250 pounds that can. Paladin - A holy beat down in the name of God!
StoneSkin Posted July 7, 2003 Posted July 7, 2003 Read that quote you took from me again MikS. I said a boxer would be a tough opponent, a bodybuilder would be a much easier opponent then a boxer. A boxer is used to throwing punches and moving around a body builder isnt. A bodybuilder will get tired when he starts to move around. Have you seen body builders lean against the wall when there back stage in a competition they are damn tired from flexing there muscles. Bodybuilders can have good flexibility for there size but they wont have as much flexability as a smaller person. Warp spider is 100% correct. Some heavyweight professional bodybuilders have difficulty tieing there shoes they are so big.
StoneSkin Posted July 7, 2003 Posted July 7, 2003 Also if a bodybuilder is in season he will be doing lots of cardio possibly 60 minutes a day and also eating less carbs to prepare for competition thus he will get tired faster. Low or no carbs and lots of cardio will give you less endurance. Now lets say a bodybuilder is in his offseason he wont be doing cardio because hes trying to bulkup. Doing 60 minutes of cardio a day while your trying to bulk up is counter productive. Now if you were to say oh well I wasnt talking about heavyweight bodybuilders. Well then your off topic.
shotochem Posted July 8, 2003 Posted July 8, 2003 Id rather fight the bodybuilder than the boxer, the bodybuilder is not used to being hit a boxer gets hit all day it wouldnt faze him. The bodybuilder also would not move as fast and be an easier target to avoid or strike. Pain is only temporary, the memory of that pain lasts a lifetime.
Playaloc916 Posted July 18, 2003 Posted July 18, 2003 The bodybuilder won't know how to react to a boxer. I'm sure a lot of big guys, once they get into a fight, they will start flinging they arms around. But I'm sure if you get hit by the arms, it would hurt a lot. If you have moderate strength and are lucky, then you'll have a chance at taking a big guy down, provided that you can land a straight cross directly on the side of the jaw. If you're a small guy, then your chances are not good. I'm not sure any throw or hold will help either.
Synaesthesia Posted July 18, 2003 Posted July 18, 2003 "If you're a small guy, then your chances are not good." True, that's why you don't try to hit their jaw. A good kick to the nads will be easier to deliver and give more time for escape. (Survival is victory right?)
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