SBN Doug Posted August 10, 2003 Posted August 10, 2003 (edited) Every one who is unlawfully assaulted without having provoked the assault is justified in repelling force by force if the force he uses is not intended to cause death or grievous bodily harm and is no more than is necessary to enable him to defend himself. That's out of the Canadian Criminal Code... Unfortunately, we don't all live in countries with that as their law. Edited August 11, 2003 by SBN Doug Kuk Sool Won - 4th danEvil triumphs when good men do nothing.
Treebranch Posted August 10, 2003 Posted August 10, 2003 Push him away and get distance, if he keeps coming well I feel sorry for him. "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience.""Lock em out or Knock em out"
Cactus_Gazz Posted August 10, 2003 Posted August 10, 2003 I think something that a guy said in "the warroir within" dvd explained it best, "You can curse me, you can say what you want to about me, but if you lay a hand on me, i'm gonna hurt you" Yellow Belt - GKR Karate
Gino Posted August 10, 2003 Posted August 10, 2003 This ones a tough one, a very hard point to discuss. A great question for martial artists though. Being able to react under pressure with just the right amount of force to ensure your safety is an indescribably difficult thing to do. Very often either too much or not enough force end up being used.The thing is only one of those can result in your death or you sustaining a serious injury. Never give in
iolair Posted August 10, 2003 Posted August 10, 2003 How does using a phrase like "If you push me again, we're going to be fighting" affect you legally? Any ideas? Currently: Kickboxing and variants.Previously: Karate (Seido, Shotokan, Seidokan), Ju Jitsu, Judo, Aikido, Fencing.
Icetuete Posted August 14, 2003 Posted August 14, 2003 This ones a tough one, a very hard point to discuss. A great question for martial artists though. i agree, but i think better them then me/girlfriend/family. if i end up having to pay a dr.bill i'd still be glad that i am safe and not injured!
Sens55 Posted August 15, 2003 Posted August 15, 2003 I have to assume that if someone is stupid enough to push me, they mean harm. I don't get into anyone's face, if an argument was brewing I'd vacate before it erupted. However, if someone pushed me unprovoked, it's on. There has been a lot of talk and I've seen a lot written about applying just enough force to neutralize the threat. Well, I don't know what that level is and I don't care. I could let up easy, give him a breather and he can pull a boot knife or a gun. Why wouldn't he? He was crazy enough to start it in the first place, who knows how far he'll go. So I'd take whatever target he gave me and drop him. I wouldn't attempt to kill him, unless of course he was attempting deadly force, but I would keep on him until he's unconscious, screaming uncle or I have a clean escape path. As Icetuete pointed out, better his doctor's bills than mine. Just hire a better lawyer and you'll win. After all, whatever he might say you can always countersue claiming "mental duress". "Your Honor, being forced to snap his arm like a twig was traumatizing. I have nightmares about it. I can't sleep. I need a $250,000 and I'm sure I'll be fine." Seriously though. I have to be alive for him to sue me. And being sued is preferable to being dead.
Icetuete Posted August 15, 2003 Posted August 15, 2003 i dont think being pushed is sufficent to knock someone unconcious... ur knife/gun point was good though. and as for:"Your Honor, being forced to snap his arm like a twig was traumatizing. I have nightmares about it. I can't sleep. I need a $250,000 and I'm sure I'll be fine." in texas maybe, but not in germany
Tibby Posted August 15, 2003 Posted August 15, 2003 i dont think being pushed is sufficent to knock someone unconcious... ur knife/gun point was good though. and as for:"Your Honor, being forced to snap his arm like a twig was traumatizing. I have nightmares about it. I can't sleep. I need a $250,000 and I'm sure I'll be fine." in texas maybe, but not in germany Maybe in Kansas, not in Texas. In texas, you fight, you both go to jail. If you swing at them once, it is considered a fight, and you both get punished. You both go directly to jail, even if they started it.
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