Advice on grappling system please

[RAZOR]

Hi, I dont post on this forum cos i dont do any grappling but im hoping to start soon.

 

I need some advice though.

 

I have been doing Muay Thai for about 5 years coming on to six and im quite good at it.

 

I more than happy with as a self defence for stand up fighting but as you know it has no graplling.

 

I live in London but there are only a couple of BJJ schools here and they take ages to get too and are over crowded as there are only two.

 

Question: If im going to do a grappling system but not BJJ which one is most effective for self defence.

 

I need grappling only reaally and no wierd systems that hardly even exist.

 

I need something i can find and do and with which i will be able to hold my own if i get taken down.

 

Thanks

[karate_woman]

Are there any traditional JJ schools there?

 

Something else I had some exposure to in a grappling seminar was Sambo - the second day of the two day seminar was dedicated to Sambo leg and ankle locks, taught by a Sambo instructor (originally) from Russia. The moves we were shown were quite effective. I assume that is also why a bunch of MMA students came in for that day of the seminar.

[RAZOR]

DOesnt JJ include all the stand up stuff as well.

 

I dont really want to mix that with my Muay Thai because i think that wont work for me.

 

The ground stuff would be good though Sambo is an interesting idea i will check that out and try and find out some more.

 

Thanks for the input as usual Karate_Woman

[karate_woman]

Yes, JJ usually includes strikes (I assume that is the stand up stuff you're referring to), but remember that there is a lot of grappling you can do from a standing position as well.

 

Have fun in your search.

[psychospaz]

sambo, judo, bjj, and sub-wrestling are all good

[Sho-ju]

Judo is good and usally cheap.

[TJS]

Instead of listing the many good things about each stlye i will say the main draw back imo

 

-BJJ-Great sumbmissions, and all round ground game...not Huge on takedowns but still better than most

 

-Judo Lots of Throws and it does have ground work but not to the extent of BJJ and also many techniques rely on the Gi

 

wreslting-Best in the world at takedowns/slams whitch can be devistating but very limited submissions and wrestlers dont like to be on their back

 

Sambo-similar to BJJ but i have heard they dont have as much "live practice"

[Sho-ju]

Judo stand up does rely on the gi.

 

Sambo has a lot of live practice. It's just like wrestling.

 

What I did when I couldn't make it to grappling is find wrestlers to roll with. Set up mats at the local Y and post flyers. I ended up with 25 people who did some type of grappling in the past and we would roll freestyle submissions. We did it for two months and I learn alot without paying alot.

[kenpo4life]

I laugh when I hear people say that judo relies on the gi. Most moves do, like bjj, but without the gi, a real judo school is lot like Greco Roman

[broomhilda000]

I take judo and I can throw people just as well without the gi. I did weight training on my forearms so I can grip really hard. I can hold onto their arm practically anytime I need to. Unless their greased like a pig =)