paolung Posted June 17, 2003 Posted June 17, 2003 If ring-fighting ability is really important to you in martial arts and you want something with heavy physical condiitioning with a strong focus on only fighting and nothing other than what works in the ring,I'd chose the Muay Thai/BJJ/Kali. If those things are not the only factors for you, but you would also like many of the aforementioned benefits of MT/BJJ/Kali training IN ADDITION to other benefits, check out the hung fut guys. it can't hurt to see what they have to offer. "It is not how much you know but how well you have mastered what you've learnt. When making an assessment of one's martial arts training one should measure the depth rather than the length". - MASTER "General" D. Lacey
hobbitbob Posted June 17, 2003 Posted June 17, 2003 I used to do karate for several years but had to quit due to transporational difficulties, though I enjoyed it immensely. I also took TKD but did not like it, as it was a mcdojo and I found that the style sucked and only used kicks. Currently I am considering two schools, one of them is a Shaolin Hung Fut school and one is a Muay Thai/BJJ/Kali school(teaches all three). The Muay Thai school is closer to my area. Please visit the websites of the schools and tell me what you think. http://www.kungfu1.com/ http://linxx-academy.com/ I am looking for the following in no particular order - Fun - Self Defense - Physical fitness - Visual Appeal Please tell me which school you think is better If self-defense is really important to you in martial arts and you want something with realism no kata crap,I'd chose the Muay Thai/BJJ/Kali. Sounds like here you'd have alot of everything that's realistic, muay thai kickboxing,grappling and weapons training.Hmmm....did you have a bad experience with Kata? Realism? Why yes, every self defence encounter I've had my opponent and I were wearing boxing gloves... I would reccomend the Hung Fut school. There is a difference between learning to beat people up and learning a martial art. Unless you are planning a career as a prizefighter with free complimentary closed head injuries, go with what you can do for the next ninety years or so, There have always been Starkadders at Cold Comfort Farm!
CheekyMusician Posted June 17, 2003 Posted June 17, 2003 A school that teaches more than one style always makes me a bit suspicious. I always think McDojo when I hear that. Obviously, there are exceptions to the rule, but that's just the general trend IMO. Smile. It makes people wonder what you've been up to.
MuayThai Fighter Posted June 18, 2003 Posted June 18, 2003 A school that teaches more than one style always makes me a bit suspicious. I always think McDojo when I hear that. Obviously, there are exceptions to the rule, but that's just the general trend IMO. Why would it make you suspicious?Many people study more then one martial arts style ,and later mix together everything of what they have learnt ,sometimes even to create their own style,so why would it be so hard to believe that a school that teaches two styles is real? I am trying to create my own style using Muay Thai,Submission Wrestling,Karate self-defense(without any forms),it's not like I don't have experience in any of these arts.I even plan to perhaps add more later on,because I do want to take up some other styles,such as aikido, judo, and kali. Would this mean I'm creating a Mcdojo? I definitely don't think so.
aznkarateboi Posted June 18, 2003 Author Posted June 18, 2003 hmmmm im beginning to lean towards the hung fut school, and heres why. the muay thai program of the linxx academy(not the whole thing, just the thai program) has sparring only once a week. is this unusual or bad? it seems a bit low..
Kirves Posted June 18, 2003 Posted June 18, 2003 Many MT schools divide classes for different purposes, instead of giving classes of everything mixed, they have a technique class, a sparring class, an equipment drill class (mits, heavy bag, two-end-ball, etc.) a.k.a. attributes class, and so on. So it is not necessarily bad if the whole sparring session is nothing but sparring from start to finish and the rest of the classes focus on techniques, combos, fitness and equipment training.
GreenDragon Posted June 18, 2003 Posted June 18, 2003 I agree with Kirves, my MT school only does sparring once a week. So does the other MT school in my town. Understand that with MT a lot of your regular training is done with a live partner who is throwing punches/kicks that you have to block and counter or is giving you moving targets in the form of focus mits/thai pads. So the need to spar often is not as high as with other arts where your training may consist of practicing blocks and punches in the air while doing forms or drills. And I doubt that any other arts will do sparring much more than once a week anyway. And concerning more than one art at a school, it is very common for MT schools to also teach BJJ. I don't really know why. But my school teaches the exact three that you listed the Linxx academy as teaching. Sounds like I am pushing the MT school eh? Not intentionally. Just wanted to give you as much information as possible, and since I train at a school similar to Linxx, it is what I can speak to. Like I said, I think their prices are ridiculously high. But the Kung Fu place has a very well produced web site and the money for that kind of thing has to come from somewhere so I don't imagine they are much of a bargain either (but I can't imagine them costing as much as Linxx). Kung Fu is a great art. Personally the only thing I don't like about Hung Fut is that is sounds like it may have too many animal styles blended into one style. Each animal style can be studied as it's own complete art (Black Tiger, Praying Mantis, etc.) One popular art, Hung Gar is said to have mixed Tiger and Crane. Mixing a lot of them like Hung Fut claims to do seems, well, I dunno, someone with a Shaolin background can probably speak to this point better than I so I won't come right out and say it is bad, but I would learn more about it if I were you. Where is Paolung when you need him? GreenDragon G r e e n D r a g o nFOR THE ABSOLUTE HIGHEST QUALITY SUPPLEMENTS...AT THE ABSOLUTE LOWEST PRICE: https://www.trueprotein.comFor an even lower price, use this discount code: CRA857Courage, above all things, is the first quality of a warrior. - Carl von Clausewitz
hobbitbob Posted June 18, 2003 Posted June 18, 2003 I know someone who did Hung Fut,and the "mixing of animal styles" is actually the inclusion of animal techniques in various forms, as well as the inclusion of various animal forms in teh curriculum. Many KF schools teach a variety of "critter styles," usually at least the "shaolin five." There have always been Starkadders at Cold Comfort Farm!
hobbitbob Posted June 18, 2003 Posted June 18, 2003 After loking at the website for Taeyim Kung Fu, I can wholeheartedly reccomend it. I met several students of the school while at the University of Maryland, Baltimore County. They did demonstrations at the Asia festival in 2000-2002. Good school. There have always been Starkadders at Cold Comfort Farm!
MuayThai Fighter Posted June 19, 2003 Posted June 19, 2003 Many MT schools divide classes for different purposes, instead of giving classes of everything mixed, they have a technique class, a sparring class, an equipment drill class (mits, heavy bag, two-end-ball, etc.) a.k.a. attributes class, and so on. So it is not necessarily bad if the whole sparring session is nothing but sparring from start to finish and the rest of the classes focus on techniques, combos, fitness and equipment training. I agree to an extent. My school has teaches technique class for wrestling part of the class and other part sparrs in wrestling on mondays.Tuesdays are going over MuayThai techniques first part of class and sparring in Wrestling for other part of the Pankration class.On Wednesdays is Sparring MuayThai only and Thursdays is sparring Pankration.Fridays are straight boxing and Saturdays is fight class (option to fight submission wrestling,muay thai,pankration, or work on fighting skills on dummy or heavy bag).Most chose to fight Pankration on Saturdays. We have sparring in almost every class,although part of most classes will also work on techniques first. before getting into sparring. In each class,when we work on techniques it is always on focus mitts,kicking shields,thai pads,sometimes heavy bag,and on partner. All techniques in school done full power except for sparring in wrestling. checkout my school of training: http://www.gibsonpankration.com
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