Kirves Posted June 15, 2003 Share Posted June 15, 2003 Earlier there was a thread here discussing how come young children could be granted black belts. That thread was locked, so I'll start a new one here. Do you guys really think the three guys mentioned in http://cities.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=54704 are really the kind of martial arts masters that make up a black belt? Should they be allowed to open their own dojos and start teaching adults how to defend themselves against rapists, muggers and robbers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteBelt Posted June 15, 2003 Share Posted June 15, 2003 I see TKD more as a sport, if they are giving away black belts like that... In any case a black belt is very subjective as some MAs don't use black as top honours anyway. Also, you can't really judge the 12-16 year old black belt without really knowing the circumstances. The kid may be the next MA guru, or maybe just a hard working tournament stylist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenStar Posted June 15, 2003 Share Posted June 15, 2003 If that story is true, then it's definitely a shame... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandanPJ Posted June 15, 2003 Share Posted June 15, 2003 That just shows how weak the school truely is. 3 1/2 is hardly a whitebelt let alone a blackbelt... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobbitbob Posted June 15, 2003 Share Posted June 15, 2003 Where is the "vomit" icon? There have always been Starkadders at Cold Comfort Farm! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shotochem Posted June 16, 2003 Share Posted June 16, 2003 I wonder if the child is potty trained ??? Pain is only temporary, the memory of that pain lasts a lifetime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karate_woman Posted June 16, 2003 Share Posted June 16, 2003 The association is part of The India Taekwondo Federation. The Federation's own rules for granting dan grades (which I must say are rather short at 26 months to get 1st dan) are here: http://www.geocities.com/tfi_india/anrbgp.htm The journey of a thousand miles begins with one step. -Lao-Tse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjanurse Posted June 17, 2003 Share Posted June 17, 2003 "A Black Belt is only the beginning."Heidi-A student of the artsTae Kwon Do,Shotokan,Ju Jitsu,Modern Arnishttp://the100info.tumblr.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broomhilda000 Posted June 17, 2003 Share Posted June 17, 2003 What does a black belt mean these days? That you have memorized some patterns and kata? Done 1vs1 at slow motion speed? Ya pretty much I know a bunch of kids who are black belts. I myself am a judo black belt and am 16 but in judo you have to work for it, grapple rohndori ( a form a full force sparring with no striking ) so in judo if you get a black belt you have earned it not memorized it and i'm sure some others are arts and schools are like this but not many that i've seen, a black belt gives them a false sence of security but they can't really fight. But face a black belt use to mean that if you caught him on a bad day in a back alley you were in trouble... Be as a tranquil pool of water in the woods. Calm, collected, reflecting on its surface all that is around it. Make your own mind such a quiet mirror reflecting the mind of the opponent. Even as your partner's impulse to attack passes through his mind it should be reflected in you.The safest battle is the one that is never fought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaolin Chuan Fa Posted June 18, 2003 Share Posted June 18, 2003 How can anyone condone what other Dojos do or how they distribute rank? If they feel that a student has reached what it takes for then to become 1st Dan then fine. If they want to get cocky over the fact that they have a black belt then when they get their head handed to them in a situation then they will see that the rank that they achived does not qualify them to win a fight. I have seen many fights and matches where a lower rank has won against a higher ranking person. Rank and belt color do not a fighter make... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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