monkeygirl Posted June 7, 2003 Share Posted June 7, 2003 A week after I joined my dojo, they hosted a small tournament. Since I was still a white belt and clueless to my kata, I went to watch. Everything was going good during the kids' portion (except I think somebody twisted their knee or ankle or something). Then the adult portion began. An elderly orange belt by the name of Ed had just finished his point sparring match, and the next match was going on. Before you knew it, Ed was snoring loudly on his back. Everybody thought it was kinda funny until they realized something wasn't right. As it turned out, Ed had a heart attack. An ambulance was called and the tournament was postponed. So yeah that was kinda scary. He didn't die though. 1st dan & Asst. Instructor TKD 2000-2003No matter the tune...if you can rock it, rock it hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobz Posted June 7, 2003 Share Posted June 7, 2003 I heard of some LaCrosse player who got hit in the chest with the ball (he was the goalie) at the exact instant it was starting a new beat, and this stopped his heart O.O Rule #1: Play the game to the limit. Damn the consequences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobbitbob Posted June 7, 2003 Share Posted June 7, 2003 This was a major pioint of discussion at the Shotokan e-group a year or so ago. There is a tendency for prople with Woff-Parkinson-White Syndrome (WPW) to be prone to suffereirng from ventricular arrythmias induced by percussive injuries to the chest. I have taken care of a few kids who have arrested due to this. In most cases the percussion to the chest leads to the developement of ventricular fibrillation due to a re-entry mechanism present in those with WPW. They posess increased amounts of conductive tissue in the aterioventricular junction, if I recall correctly,and electrical impulses can "re-enter" the ventricular conduction pathways, setting up lethal arrythmias. Ninjanurse, can you help me out here? Anyway, they enter vfib that is recalcitrant to electrical conversion, as well as to drug therapy like epinephrine and lidocaine. I have read of studies where calcium channel blockers were shown to have some utility, but by the time the patient reaches the ED, the ecfficacy of Ca++ channel blockers is doubtful. THis post in in danger of deteriorating into a critique of the new ACLS guidelines, so I shall quit while I'm ahead! There have always been Starkadders at Cold Comfort Farm! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteBelt Posted June 8, 2003 Share Posted June 8, 2003 I knew a sensei that wanted students to punch at their opponent's heart, so that it just might stop it. I always thought the idea silly, but I guess I was wrong... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewGreen Posted June 8, 2003 Share Posted June 8, 2003 No, its a REALLY STUPID IDEA, much more so if there is ANY chance of it working. Andrew Greenhttp://innovativema.ca - All the top martial arts news! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikS Posted June 8, 2003 Share Posted June 8, 2003 (edited) edit edit edit! Edited June 8, 2003 by mikS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikS Posted June 8, 2003 Share Posted June 8, 2003 Oh never mind! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mArTiAl_GiRl Posted June 8, 2003 Share Posted June 8, 2003 When one compehends the true nature of martial arts, one is fully aware that authentic teachings forbid devaluing, hurting, or destroying the tiniest living creature that crawls at our feet, not to speak of maiming or taking the life of another human being. It is one of the awful ironies of our age martial-arts training that evolved over the centuries into a supremely elegant system centered on attention to ethics, morality, and right living should now be conducted in terms of tecniques and gimmicks of fighting as means to destructive ends, rather than as ends in themselves! Kill is love Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilko9999 Posted June 8, 2003 Share Posted June 8, 2003 hi to kill someone by hitting them in the torso needs alot of power and do's not happen alot, so keep going karate and don't think about it L8er Trodai Karate, Brown Belt 1nd Kyu"Belts Are For Holding Your Pants Up" Bruce Lee"With Great Power Comes Great Responsibility"Ben Paker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamidake Posted June 8, 2003 Share Posted June 8, 2003 I thought the techniques were originally developed for use in combat? For self-defense? I am quite sure that is the case for Okinawan karate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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