Lets Discuss the "Dim Mak" (Death Touch)

[muaythaifreak]

I thumped my sister on the nose, she's gonna die from it in like sixty years, maybe less. Who knows, it could take the form of cancer, heart attack, you just never can tell. Dim mak works in mysterious ways!!

[kuntoafighter2003]

dim mak does exist but its not actually a style it can be applied with other styles its more like concept or technique thats within lots of chinese martial arts....you cant just know dim mak you have to know how to fight first...you cant give birth to a baby without the egg being fertilized...dim mak deals with alot of science.....ill leave it at that

[White Warlock]

kuntaofighter. Do you study dim mak, or are you doing what so many others do... which is is to speak of it in mystical ambiguities because they have little to no knowledge of it?

[granmasterchen]

every human being has certain weak spots on their bodys, you have areas where bones are thinner than others, large nerve masses and arteries that are unprotected. It is all about knowing how to properly hit these vital areas and cause sufficient damage to that area.

 

Now if we are talking the more mystical route of say....the five finger exploding heart technique....well.......hmmmmmmm i will say now....that i find it VERY hard to believe....yet i am sure that ANYTHING is possible....i just can't imagine any normal person or any normal martial artist possessing that kind of skill or knowledge that would make such a thing possible as delayed death or delayed paralysis or anything like that....

 

some things can be explained especially the instantaneous results of trauma....

 

or if i chop someone in a certain area of the neck they will die in ten minutes,,,,yeah that's possible....just for the fact that i have hit with enough force to either sever an artery or vein bring in blood flow....that will cause hemoraging in massive amounts very quickly and SOON they will die...or if i hit it hard enought to make the walls close in on themselves and prevent blood flow , therefore preventing oxygen to the brain and making the person fall unconscious in ten seconds....and of course if the pressure is not relieved they will die soon....stuff like that where there is instant trauma that causes coma or a scientifically and anatomically proven body part to stop its regular function can explain why it would result in a delayed death or paralysis.....

 

my only doubts on dim mak are the simple touch to the hand of slight brush on a shoulder of someone that passes by that will kill the individual in a week....that i find rather far fetched....the whole transfer of bad chi and such....but then again, i just may not be knowledgeable enough about chi to grasp the complexities of dim mak....so there fore i will say it may be possible.

[Luckykboxer]

this one time....

 

at band camp.....

 

I pulled this guys finger.....

 

and well it messed not only with his chi, but it messed with the entire cabins chi.... we slept out in tents that night :/

 

dangerous stuff i tell you...

 

 

/sarcasm off.

 

I am a complete non believer in this.

[markusan]

Chasing mysterious secret "powers" is a big distraction. It's your mind fighting against stillness.

[wolfman]

Well if your going too rely on pressure point strikes you'll have to be a human calendar knowing what points are active and at what times of the day their active. Or your actual striking can have a quality of hit that activates a bunch of pressure points no matter where you hit.

 

Thats the explaination I got from William de Thouars.

[kuntoafighter2003]

i actually no a little on dim mak be cause it comes up in my chin na and tai chi books....and because kun tao is a deadly style of fighting wich incorporate internal and external techniques making it a balanced style....people fail to realize what dim mak truely is....the way you body works flow, and even strive to exist...your body works to obtain its balance....by breaking the balance you can cause harm to a person....by hitting certain points: swelling organ or vital arteries and veins or vital point of a person body you can cause extreme amounts of damage.If someono damages an organ in your body it fails in turn it will poison your body in then in time even die or shut your body down....snake style for instance in fast and acurate and very deadly it might not be called dim mak but it executes some of the same concepts of dim mak. snake style blinds,poisons,knocks out, and even more entense things can happen to a person when use this style.....many people ask stupid such as "is dim mak real?" have they sat down and read a book on dim mak ...have ever in your life of martial arts studied some pressure points...or even the nervevous system...if i can hit person in certain place and make lungs stop, or knock some body out what do you think a more deadly strike would do to a person...most styles of martials have techniques that cause extreme amounts of damage or kill people. nowadays it just a matter if its taught.....accupunture and acupressure can be use in more ways than it should...

[Luckykboxer]

now the last post makes alot more sense to me.

 

What i have a tough time swallowing is the mystical aspects people give things.

 

I have trouble buying that anyone can just poke someone in a few spots and cause irreperable damage.

 

At the same time I think that everyone will agree that a hard enough punch will crush a trachea...if thats the case then i think its reasonable to say that other organs can be damaged as well.

 

I am not sure i buy the ability to strike nerves and have them deliver the bad news at a later time though.

 

i guess im going to have to go fork out the money and read a book.

[Drunken Monkey]

*edited a severe typo*

 

....i've always held the belief that yes, there are points on the body that you can hit to do more than normal damage to a person

 

BUT

 

there is no 'touch there and you die' thing.

 

one of the 'death touch' points is the 'tai yeung yuet wai' which is basically the bone (plate?) that sits right behind that little dimple on your temple.

 

old clasical writings have said that striking (note it says 'striking', not 'touch'...) at this point can cause death.

 

why?

 

because it is a 'weaker' point in the skull.

 

there is another point that is approximately at the base of your neck.

 

i wonder why striking here could cause severe damage....?

 

striking organs is one thing but striking singular nerves for a delayed 'fatal' effect.

 

i'm not so sure...

Edited July 14, 2004 by Drunken Monkey