swooshfinn Posted May 29, 2003 Posted May 29, 2003 I started KSW back in January of 2002 and have been promoted to brown belt a couple of months ago... but for Christmas my friend, a Kyo Sa Nim (second degree black belt) gave me a book titled, The Art of Peace. A very informative book on the teachings and philosophy of Morihei Ueshiba. Very interesting read, I must say. Can anyone help me with the differences between these two? I think if I was going to start Aikido, this is the point in my life to start! Kuk Sool Won Jae JahJah Ddi (Brown Belt)
SBN Doug Posted May 29, 2003 Posted May 29, 2003 As I refer to Aikido schools, I'll be describing the majority of the, but certainly not all of them. The ki development (training and application) that we practice in KSW pales in comparison to the time Aikdio schools spend on this aspect of training. Where we have a pretty even balance of training for defence vs. attack, Aikido primarily focuses on defence. Where we balance kicks with hand techniques, I believe Aikido emphasizes hand techniques with very little to any kicks. Where we describe our system as "hard/soft", Aikido is almost entirely "soft". We learn a variety of weapons, I'm not sure if Aikido learnd any . KSW in much closer to Hapkido than it is to Aikido. Kuk Sool Won - 4th danEvil triumphs when good men do nothing.
TomanGaidin Posted May 30, 2003 Posted May 30, 2003 I'm only speaking of experience from my own dojo, but I can say that we do an hour of weapon's practice, then an hour afterward for empty hand. Reason being that many of the movements tie in, especially the bokken/sword - many of aikido's unarmed techniques are based loosely around swordplay. On the matter of 'reality defence', we also practice tanken/knife disarming techniques on occasion, and make sure that in each unarmed technique we minimise our own openings throughout so as for the 'opponent' to have no easy way to kick without only losing further balance, etc. We don't exactly have any ki development, as such. As for aikido being soft... depends on the dojo, really. Ours can be a mixture. We try to resist/test against someone's technique to make sure they're applying it correctly, but we don't go out of our way to break necks . On the other hand, I've heard the Tokyo Riot Police Yoshinkan course usually comes up with several broken bones and dislocations along the way. Hard/soft varies from teacher to teacher, dojo to dojo - but overall, it probably could be assumed that aikido is 'softer' than most other arts.
SBN Doug Posted May 30, 2003 Posted May 30, 2003 Hard/soft varies from teacher to teacher, dojo to dojo - but overall, it probably could be assumed that aikido is 'softer' than most other arts. I'm hoping you understand that "soft" was referring to the way in which you deal with an attacking force, NOT how riggorous your training is. In other words, "soft" is pulling when they push, and vice versa. Redirection of force and circular motion for throws and joint manipulation. "Hard" for linear attackes, punches and kicks, meeting force head on, etc. I just want to make it perfectly clear I in no way think that the training required to lean Aikido is in any way easy. Kuk Sool Won - 4th danEvil triumphs when good men do nothing.
TomanGaidin Posted May 30, 2003 Posted May 30, 2003 Ah... no problem. Was pretty much meaning that overall, however, aikido is probably less strenuous in the training than, say, muay thai , so it could be seen as both soft in terms of training and soft in terms of dealing with force. From one of Seagal's old dojo footage, though, I'm not even sure if that could be called soft in terms of dealing with force ;p. Some of his entry throws he just cuts through them as though they're not even there. If they resisted, it could maybe be called 'hard', in a way... though they'd probably only hurt themselves by doing so ;p.
Kensai Posted May 31, 2003 Posted May 31, 2003 Aikido is the ART OF THE GODS! Thats all I have to say.
Karateka_latino Posted June 1, 2003 Posted June 1, 2003 Aikido is the ART OF THE GODS! Thats all I have to say. Oh I see now, That's why Aikido isn't so usefull for us the HUMANS. Just joking. lol
TomanGaidin Posted June 2, 2003 Posted June 2, 2003 One good thing about aikido... the other gods don't look at you funny. You're among your own kind.
Davison Posted June 4, 2003 Posted June 4, 2003 i love m/a!its so great that martial artists from all over can talk and discuss topics such as this.i dont think its about a certain m/a,only the person training has the potential to make it work. Why punch someone when their on the ground when you can just kick them
Recommended Posts