Drunken Monkey Posted June 16, 2003 Posted June 16, 2003 is that john g from memento? cool film... post count is directly related to how much free time you have, not how intelligent you are."When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite."
Drunken Monkey Posted June 16, 2003 Posted June 16, 2003 i just saw your name at the bottom of the post... so sorry no offence meant it's just that i don't get to see many cool names here. post count is directly related to how much free time you have, not how intelligent you are."When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite."
Prodigal Son Posted June 17, 2003 Posted June 17, 2003 Power is soooooo over rated. You could have the weight of ten Tysons behind you, but If I can hit you first you have lost your eyes. A child could crush your windpipe. So if it's all about speed, the shortest distance is a straight, centre line... >>>PS<<< ________________________ "You will have no problems when you have no qualms." ------------------------------------------------------------------------Self-defense is only an illusion, a dark cloak beneath which lurks a razor-sharp dagger waiting to be plunged into the first unwary victim. Sifu Wong.
DokterVet Posted June 17, 2003 Posted June 17, 2003 "A child could crush your windpipe." I sincerely doubt that. Have you seen it happen? Have a child try to choke you out, or punch you in a vital spot. A child is simply no match for an adult. Speed isn't everything. If there is no weight behind the attack, it won't do any damage, and Tyson's fist will be on its way into your skull. 22 years oldShootwrestlingFormerly Wado-Kai Karate
Martial_Artist Posted June 17, 2003 Posted June 17, 2003 Yes, I concur. A child couldn't perform such a task. Perhaps a child around 14-15; anything younger is not the norm, but the exception. "I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination.Imagination is more important than knowledge.Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles the world." Einstein
Prodigal Son Posted June 17, 2003 Posted June 17, 2003 I seem to be misunderstood here. I was not making any categoric statements about throat-punching children. ("But not if he was six months old !" Well, duh...) I was attempting to illustrate my point: A relatively small amount of power applies to a soft part of the body (eyes or throat) can cause plenty of damage against a stronger opponent - if it is done FIRST. I'm not saying that everyone will be sucessfull all the time with this, because that's down to the individual's state, training etc. But we can work towards an aspired level of ability with certain techniques. Our philosophy is to practice for such moves, and we believe this to be the best way for us. Shotokan practitioners believe that the opposite is true and so they train for power. We all have our opinions and the opinions I express here are my own, and from my own perspective. Just sayin what I think "There are no invincible moves" Wing Chun motto Respect to you all >>>PS<<< BTW.... My eight year old niece, who has two years training under her hat, definitely COULD crush yer throat. Come round to the house and let her try if you think I'm telling porkies... ------------------------------------------------------------------------Self-defense is only an illusion, a dark cloak beneath which lurks a razor-sharp dagger waiting to be plunged into the first unwary victim. Sifu Wong.
RAZOR Posted June 18, 2003 Posted June 18, 2003 Hooks should be there they are very powerful so why limit yourself?????????
Drunken Monkey Posted June 21, 2003 Posted June 21, 2003 it's not really limiting yourself. the guy who started this thread is practising wing chun and the hook just doesn't really fit into the theory that the system teaches. however, once you have learnt the theory and practised the relatively fixed forms/techniques, you will find out what from the style works for you and if it doesn't work how you can make it work. this might end up meaning that you CAN use hooks because it fits into how you apply the principles you have learnt and practised. post count is directly related to how much free time you have, not how intelligent you are."When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite."
sansoouser Posted June 22, 2003 Posted June 22, 2003 You need to learn all punches not just one type, but a straight punch can end a fight or stun them so you can follow up and also a hook could come from out of their view and BAM lights out... The amateur shoots his hands out ferociously, but lacks any true power. A master is not so flamboyant, but his touch is as heavy as a mountain.
DokterVet Posted June 22, 2003 Posted June 22, 2003 Our philosophy is to practice for such moves, and we believe this to be the best way for us. Shotokan practitioners believe that the opposite is true and so they train for power. We all have our opinions and the opinions I express here are my own, and from my own perspective. Just sayin what I think "There are no invincible moves" Wing Chun motto That makes sense. You're right, karate for the most part attempts to have the most power possible, sometimes sacrificing speed and guard for that goal. My eight year old niece, who has two years training under her hat, definitely COULD crush yer throat. Come round to the house and let her try if you think I'm telling porkies... I think I'll pass on the punch to the throat because I don't feel like being hit there, not because I think my windpipe will be crushed. It has taken a walloping before and hasn't broken. If I were ten years younger, I'd steer clear of her though! 22 years oldShootwrestlingFormerly Wado-Kai Karate
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