Guitar_lover Posted May 23, 2003 Posted May 23, 2003 Yeah i am pretty new to the marshall arts sence, and i been looking threw this forum. What i see poping up alot if like mcdojo, is this some sort of slader or something?. Also i see alot of style critasised, which confuses me as i thought you would respect other styles and where people trained in any way. Sorry if i am dumb. Peace. PEACE AND LOVE."When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace"
tommarker Posted May 23, 2003 Posted May 23, 2003 Certainly not dumb, mate.. it's a common question. To refer to a school as a McDojo is indeed an insult. I also think it is one that is thrown around with entirely too much levity. In essence, a McDojo could be defined as a school that hands out rank in exchange for funds without any necessary marked improvement in skill. I once heard a phrase that essentially said "don't attribute to malice that which can be more easily attributed to incompetence." In other words, (insert your favorite politician here) isn't an evil soulless jerk, he probably just doesn't know any better. I think there are several schools out there which suffer from this. Black belts with no real understanding of the art or its essence. They never get beyond kick/punch to see why they do what they do. Never questioning, never experimenting, etc. It's just something to do, not necessarily a lifetime pursuit. I don't think these are McDojos. A McDojo is run, IMHO, with the intent to make a profit, above all else. Where conferring a blackbelt upon a student is just the natural end of a 2 year long financial transaction than the culmination of hard work and accumulation of proper skills. They may require their students to "know" forms or skillsets in order to "pass" a test, but the level at which they must understand is completely subjective. I believe in calling a spade a spade, but I think too many people shoot from the hip in describing a school as inferior, or a mcdojo, etc. I'm no longer posting here. Adios.
monkeygirl Posted May 23, 2003 Posted May 23, 2003 http://www.karateforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=2396&highlight=mcdojo This thread shows many people's different views on what a McDojo is. 1st dan & Asst. Instructor TKD 2000-2003No matter the tune...if you can rock it, rock it hard.
Raiden Posted May 23, 2003 Posted May 23, 2003 Certainly not dumb, mate.. it's a common question. To refer to a school as a McDojo is indeed an insult. I also think it is one that is thrown around with entirely too much levity. In essence, a McDojo could be defined as a school that hands out rank in exchange for funds without any necessary marked improvement in skill. I once heard a phrase that essentially said "don't attribute to malice that which can be more easily attributed to incompetence." In other words, (insert your favorite politician here) isn't an evil soulless jerk, he probably just doesn't know any better. I think there are several schools out there which suffer from this. Black belts with no real understanding of the art or its essence. They never get beyond kick/punch to see why they do what they do. Never questioning, never experimenting, etc. It's just something to do, not necessarily a lifetime pursuit. I don't think these are McDojos. A McDojo is run, IMHO, with the intent to make a profit, above all else. Where conferring a blackbelt upon a student is just the natural end of a 2 year long financial transaction than the culmination of hard work and accumulation of proper skills. They may require their students to "know" forms or skillsets in order to "pass" a test, but the level at which they must understand is completely subjective. I believe in calling a spade a spade, but I think too many people shoot from the hip in describing a school as inferior, or a mcdojo, etc. well said White Belt-Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu
thekuntawman Posted May 24, 2003 Posted May 24, 2003 the sad thing about martial arts schools that are commericalized, is that most of the students, who worked very hard for the black belt they got, think they have good martial arts. many times they did not notice that the school they go to is not a "good" martial arts school. met a lot of people who are sincer about the martial arts they do, but they just had bad luck to find a teacher who didnt do a good job teaching them well. experience is theories you have proven to yourself, to be true. martial artist need experience, not theories.
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