who uses a palm strike in a streetfight??? expalin why.

[GreenDragon]

First let me say that the post on page one by 100% saying that a palm strike to the nose is deadly is not true, it is an old wives tale that the nose gets pushed upward into the brain causing instant death. That is not to say that a palm strike to the nose wouldn't be effective and painful.

 

54Oldsman hit the nail on the head. Boxers and kickboxers do not wear wraps and gloves only for the protection of the person they are hitting, it is primarily protection for their hands and wrists. With a palm strike there is very little chance of the wrist being sprained or broken when the hit lands on a moving target.

 

A good palm strike is to the chin/lower jaw; if executed properly with enough force it slams the bottom jaw backwards causing concussion and/or KO. Many boxing mouth guards on the market now are designed specifically to prevent this.

 

Personally since I train in Muay Thai, our instructor teaches us not to even make a fist in a streetfight, but use open hands to help control the attacker and use elbows, knees, low kicks to strike with, never a fist in a streetfight.

 

GD

[mikS]

Shirkan how did you go about training yourself in order to have such a strong grip?

[Synaesthesia]

Never using a fist? Wow, that seems quite unusual. (Not implausible though.)

 

I still remember trying to punch these guys, I was screaming in rage and scaring them off, but each time I punched I wreched out my shoulder due to improper body mechanics. It took months to recover.

 

Ahh, the lessons leant the hard way: Doing pushups is nothing like punching.

[GreenDragon]

Well, when you train as hard as we do to use other weapons like elbows and knees, there really isn't any reason to risk injury to your hands/wrists in a street fight. I'm not saying it isn't possible to hurt an elbow, knee or shin when using them as weapons, but the fact is, there is much less risk of injury due to how small the bones in the hand are compared to the others. And on Monday morning when I have to go back to work, would I rather have a bruised/cut elbow or a sprained/broken hand? Personally I couldn't work with a hand injury, so palms or not I would try to resist the urge to hit with a fist.

 

GD

[Tamojin]

I would use palm strikes to the body to do internal shock damage. If he can't breathe he can't fight. The palm is an excellent way to transfer chi!

[ShirKhan]

Shirkan how did you go about training yourself in order to have such a strong grip?

 

Fingertip pushups are one well-known exercise.

 

A traditional exercise is "one thousand grabs", you grab at the air one thousand times. It sounds easy, but try it.

 

In the same principle, take a standard "gripper" exerciser ( the one that uses t a pirece of spring steel for resistance), and when it becomes easy, close it repetitively as quickly as possible as many times as you can without rest. Stop 20 seconds then do it again, speed & repetition is the focus.

 

The graduation exercise is the canvas heavy bag. The trick is, you strike with the palm, but grab the canvas of the bag with your fingers before it can fly away. This is what a Tiger palm should be, a concussive palm, then penetrating and immobilizing fingers.

 

The goal is, at least in Tiger theory, you should be able to strike an opponent's body in any area with a palm and then grab his flesh with enough strength so he can't pull loose, or at least so the effort of pulling loose causes him to be so off balance you can easily push him to the ground. The fingers do NOT pierce the skin, like you see in the movies, you grab the loose flesh with enough strength that the person grabbed can't pull loose or at least has great trouble doing so.

 

The one neat thing about Tiger is that the Tiger palm makes it almost a striking/grappling hybrid art. Every palm is both a strike and a grab that sets up for another strike, etc. Done quickly by a master, an opponent's body appears pulled in several directions at once, as if he was being pulled apart.

[G95champ]

Simple answer you do as much damage if not more and you don't break your knuckles....

[Sens55]

I liked Shogun's story. The reasoning is also in line with what we learn. For soft tissue, go hard. For hard spots, go soft. If they attack in a line, go in a circle. If they come in a circle, go in a line.

[SandanPJ]

Open hand all the way...but you must know how to use your inner chi before it will be effective.....the same can be said for a punch is some regards, but a punch can still have some effect w/o chi and is typically learned first. It is all in your comfort level.

[JerryLove]

Open hand all the way...but you must know how to use your inner chi before it will be effective

 

I must disagree. Relax and slap the **** out of them... works just fine.