wckf_azn Posted May 23, 2003 Share Posted May 23, 2003 i've heard that palm strikes can be more lethal then a punch, but do you actually use it in a street fight?? which one is better. i find my instinct is to throw a punch what do you think?? http://pcorp.azn.nu | phuong nguyen | wckf | vovinam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZR440 Posted May 23, 2003 Share Posted May 23, 2003 Wouldn't use a palm to replace a punch, but a firm slam to somebody's nose will mess them up. It's happy hour somewhere in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryLove Posted May 23, 2003 Share Posted May 23, 2003 I will hit with the open hand reasonably often. https://www.clearsilat.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100-Artiste Posted May 23, 2003 Share Posted May 23, 2003 I think it depends a lot on the situation (as always!), however, if you are striking to kill then apparently a palm strike upwards on the nose is very deadly. Alternatively to push someone backwards with a hit to the chest (perhaps to buy time..) or maybe just cause they screwed up your knuckes or you do not condition effectively.. Anyhow, i think a fingertip/side hand strike can be very effective in street situation - to the neck, for example. Palm strike does have its uses however - apparently to the sternum it can cause very severe winding.. .. ~~Pure~~Artiste~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treebranch Posted May 23, 2003 Share Posted May 23, 2003 Use them if you know how, and don't if you don't. Are they effective? Yes, if you know how to use them. "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience.""Lock em out or Knock em out" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54Oldsman Posted May 24, 2003 Share Posted May 24, 2003 Basically in a self defense situation, punching to most regions of an attacker's body or head is going to break your hands and properly executed palm strikes will not. If you happen to be wearing you boxing gloves as your attacked, go ahead with the punches. PEAT-MOSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJS Posted May 24, 2003 Share Posted May 24, 2003 I would use open hand stikes to the head/side of the head..depending on the angle or how im punching...not because it's harder..but because i dont want to risk breaking my hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShirKhan Posted May 24, 2003 Share Posted May 24, 2003 Palm strikes/double palm strikes are my primary weapon of choice. I've trained my grip strength and hand/finger conditioning so that I can attack a canvas heavy back with a full speed palm and grab it with my fingers before it gets away, then pull it back over my shoulder, turn to strike it again. You can probably extrapolate from this how it would be useful in a close infighting situation. A street situation a couple years ago went like this: attacker opened with an overhand right, in one move I closed distance, left hand in outward block wrapped around his arm and trapped it against my side, right palm struck his throat, then fingers sink into his neck muscles and thumb into his windpipe. Then "stretched" him, pulling him apart between my grip on his arm and on his neck, this made his left hand unable to reach me. I held him like this for about 20 seconds, then gave him some air, and he declared his hostile actions at an end. This comes from Tiger theory, and it's strength comes from a low stance and pre-emptive thinking, if you see the fight coming, rush in and strike for a mass center for concussive effect, then use the moment he's off balance to immobilze him, take him to the ground, or break something. You have to be comfortable with the idea of sacrificing some of your defensive capability, rushing in to very close quarters and taking him out by a main force technique. "Close enough to kiss, close enough to kill." Your body is a moving target, maybe your opponent will make contact, maybe he won't, but you have to KNOW you'll make contact and that you can do anything you want with them once you get there. This flies in the face of theory of many martial styles, which use distance and defensive strength as a strong position from which to deliver blows, and capitalize on an opponent's mistakes made during their attack. Tiger tends to rush in, and with an emphasis on using palm/claw strikes, and especially both palms used simultaneously, both for striking and blocking. Palms can be used in a "pushing" strike, also in a "slapping" strike, learning to use your root strength in slapping takes a lot more time, but takes you to a totally different level, It's hard to describe in text only, but I come from a Kenpo background that is now a kind of Kenpo/Kempo/Tiger fusion, and there are virtues in all strategies. I've worked as both a bouncer and a prison guard, as well as getting into a little trouble beyond that, so what works is important to me. I'd say look into some Tiger styles if you want to see effective strategies involving palm strikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjanurse Posted May 24, 2003 Share Posted May 24, 2003 Palm strike is the first offensive self defense technique we teach to students. It takes years to develop a proper punch and puts them at risk for hand injury. Even kids can use it, even if it is just enough to startle their attacker so that they can get away. "A Black Belt is only the beginning."Heidi-A student of the artsTae Kwon Do,Shotokan,Ju Jitsu,Modern Arnishttp://the100info.tumblr.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAMA_chick Posted May 24, 2003 Share Posted May 24, 2003 i think i would punch rather than throw a palm strike. it comes more natural to me. Tae Kwon Do15-years oldpurple--belt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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