shotokanwarrior Posted May 22, 2003 Posted May 22, 2003 or do you mean gracie? Where Art ends, nature begins.
karate_woman Posted May 22, 2003 Posted May 22, 2003 Ron Van Clief, inventor of chinese goju, was defeated by Royce Gracie in UFC 4. He was 51 at the time. Here is a link I found about him: http://www.chinesegoju.com/history/shidoshi.asp The journey of a thousand miles begins with one step. -Lao-Tse
TJS Posted May 22, 2003 Posted May 22, 2003 he should have known not to give his back and ask for a choke But you gota respect someone for stepping into the Octagon at 51.
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