TJS Posted May 21, 2003 Posted May 21, 2003 Hey Guys got a question for you. In General Whato does Sparring in WC consist of? I mean What level of contact? Heavy? Very light? What techniques/targets are allowed? what Gear or protective equipment is worn? Thanks Guys.
wcnavstar Posted May 22, 2003 Posted May 22, 2003 At the start of a WC students training for sparring, they will learn Chi Dan Sau which is silgle sticky hands, and slowly progress on to Chi Sau or sticky hands. What these drills build is the ability to flow and to use feeling over sight. The arms are like the attena of a bug used to see through touch. Chi Sau practice is normally done with light contact but that can vary from school to school. However novices in WC doing Chi Sau with full force promotes the use of too much muscle and poor stucture. When you have reach an advanced level in WC then the Chi Sau becomes more or less full contact. WC trains the hands and the kicks at different times. We believe that one must be able to control the hands and his stances before ingaging in kicking techniques. Hence the rumor that WC does not have or employ kicking. Training for kicking is done aside from the hands through Chi Gurk, or sticky legs. The kicks mimmic the hands. Through this type of training WC students learn to use each arm indavidualy as well as working the legs non dependant on teh rest of the body. We tend to rely on touch rather than sight, our techniques are delivered at extremely close range. Kicks do not go above the waist. And we do not stick and move... we just stick until someone hots the floor. As far as normal sparring goes, we practice also Gor Sau. Which the best way for me to show you what that looks like is by watching "Enter the Dragon" with Bruce Lee, when he faces of with Bob Wall at the end of the movie. Again depending on your sifu, any techniques are allowed. The WC philosophy being that if you made it work and it was effective then the technique is valid. Wing Chun practitioners do not train to be carbon copies of their Sifu's. They train to be indaviduals, and being that most of us are of different body types and mind sets, then our techniques even in the same system will always differ from our teachers. What works for one, although a valid technique within Wing Chun, may not be in any way valid for you. Therfore that one WC technique (or many) will never work for you and you will be forced to change it to fit your stucture your positioning. Again leading to the flexability of the Wing Chun style. very respectfully wcnavstar "We work with being, but non-being is what we use" Tao Te Ching
TJS Posted May 23, 2003 Author Posted May 23, 2003 Thanks for the reply! So i take it there is little or no "Free sparring" ?
wckf_azn Posted May 23, 2003 Posted May 23, 2003 hi! ive been studying wckf for about a year and a half. ive been to and watched afew tournamentz. and seriously i think wc is really crappy for sparring. wing chun vs. wing chun- all we do is throw alot of straight punches at each other. i think itz light contact and none to the head. whilst vs. wing chun i tend to use tan sao block to get on the opponents blind side. i find that it is very effective. but ive found that vs. a kick boxer, i crap myself and retreat alot. i tend juz so try to get in as close as i can so he cant kick. http://pcorp.azn.nu | phuong nguyen | wckf | vovinam
TJS Posted May 24, 2003 Author Posted May 24, 2003 but ive found that vs. a kick boxer, i crap myself and retreat alot. i tend juz so try to get in as close as i can so he cant kick. lol
wcnavstar Posted May 24, 2003 Posted May 24, 2003 Free sparring for begginers leads to sloppy technique and the development of bad habbits. Free sparring in Wing Chun normaly is done only for the advanced students. I myself feel very comfortable when faced against fighters from other styles yet I seem to be more afraid of other WC stylists. Wing Chun was never meant to fight WC, it was depeloved to combat other styles of the martial arts. Nothing inpeticular. As far as the comment about facing a kickboxer and turning tail and running. I think that, that person must not have any confidence in his abilities as a fighter and may need to rethink his choice in hobbies. Very Respectfully wcnavstar "We work with being, but non-being is what we use" Tao Te Ching
Drunken Monkey Posted May 27, 2003 Posted May 27, 2003 sparring in wing chun is quite difficult due to the nature of the art. if you are simply talking about friendly sparring then yes we do that and how heavy/light we go depends on the situation. going all out hard on a novice isnt going to do anyone any good. much of the time we go at it full speed (which does not mean full power) or as fast as we can whilst still being clean and tidy in our techniques and concerntrate on the moves we are using and yes, we do aim hits to the head as this is the biggest natural target. if you are talking about simply sparring to win then no, we don't because the moves that we use to win fights are quite dangerous, which is why we don't do them in class against our brothers. post count is directly related to how much free time you have, not how intelligent you are."When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite."
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