Boxing

[King of Fighters]

How effictive is boxing for self defence and street application?

[King of Fighters]

also, how does boxing compare to tkd, karate and kung fu.

[martialartist1]

"How effictive is boxing for self defence and street application?"

 

boxing is effective when in close range fighting. the stronger in punching technique then the more effective boxing will be for self defence. i heard that boxing in UFC fights has changed a lot, because new fighters begin to use chokes and throw to their boxing techniques.

 

if you put any martial art style in a freestyle combat tournament fight like UFC, then thats where one can expect martial arts change and development. every different martial arts style has its limitations, so in order to break them one needs to fight freestyle. its just like how bruce lee said way back in the 60-70s, "using no style as style" and to this day bruce is still correct. that is why any style of martial art can be rapidly developed and changed.

 

"also, how does boxing compare to tkd, karate and kung fu."

 

boxing and tkd uses punches, boxing uses footwork without elevating highly, but tkd elevated highly, boxing punches are more developed and specialises on a fighters punches, but tkd specializes more on kata movemental punches. karate uses more kata punches to, but kungfu uses more internally explosive techniques. kungfu effective kicks are low below waist height, but karate kicks low,mid and high just like tkd, but less kicks. therefore boxing is downgraded compared to tkd, but as always it depends on the individual who can only upgrade.

[Severe Matburn]

Boxing would be great. You'll learn to take a hit and to have amazing punches. Thatz all you really need. I'd put mah money on a good boxer over a tkd/karate/kung fu guy personally althought i would prefer the latter to win. I would love to do boxing myself

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Hi, Boxing is simply a training method just like karate , tkd, kung fu etc. Most of these focus on different things... but when i comes down to it punching is punching and kicking is kicking no matter how you learn it. Severe Matburn, u say that " I'd put mah money on a good boxer over a tkd/karate/kung fu guy personally " ... interesting statement and you are definetly entitled to your opinion but really think about a self-defence situation. Sure boxers can take punches and hit hard.... but most boxers also learn to tire an opponent rather than knocking - out with single techniques. Where has in karate etc... the students learn to kick and use more strikes than just punching.... they also learn to strike certain areas and a boxer may not be expecting to be kicked in the knee cap, have his eyes poked, be kicked in the groin or be tackled and pounded. After saying all that i would like to note that i dont have anyhting against boxing or any other martial art. They all have something to offer and in a fight situation it all boils down to the people involved .. I think u would all agree that its hard to say that you would put ur money on a red head to beat a blonde etc. So forget styles and think of the people and how they use what they have be taught and trained in.... Becuase in the end a style of martial arts is only what you make of it yourself.

[TJS]

Boxing generally produces very tough fighters..mentally and physically..more so than many stlyes.

 

it may not be the most complete system and certainly has downfalls..but boxers have the best hands int he world and hands are usually the most important thing in a fight.

 

Boxing+ grappling is the way to go

[Warp Spider]

most boxers also learn to tire an opponent rather than knocking - out with single techniques.

 

I think it just seems that way because boxers are hard to KO.

they also learn to strike certain areas and a boxer may not be expecting to be kicked in the knee cap, have his eyes poked, be kicked in the groin or be tackled and pounded.

 

This is a symptom of the sport "boxing," which isn't really the same thing as the style, "boxing." Professional boxers generally do not practice these moves, or practice against them, because they are fouls in the sport. However, they are still part of the art, and nothing is stopping a boxer from practicing them.

 

I think that a boxer would plow over a TKD fighter like a semi-truck going 200. Their quick, snapping kicks would be like mosquito bites to a seasoned boxer, and with the footwork they would likely have no difficulty closing the range. I think a Karate fighter would last longer because I think that style is a bit more designed to draw out a combat. In the end I think that the boxer would still win, assuming the fighters were approximately the same skill level. I can't speak for Kung Fu, because I don't have any experience with it.

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Warp Spider, Like i said everyones entitled to there opinion and you present some good points. I have a couple of comments to add..

 

"they are still part of the art, and nothing is stopping a boxer from practicing them. "

 

Thats true and its also true that there is nothing stopping a traditional martial artist from learning to take a punch or hit just has hard as a boxer.

 

"Their quick, snapping kicks would be like mosquito bites to a seasoned boxer"

 

If they were kicked in the face this may be so, but i would dearly hope that most tkd practicioners would relize that high kicks are not always effect.. even though alot still try it and end up on there back with blood streaming from there face... Also i think it would be hard for any man to withstand a strong front kick to the groin... or for most boxers to withstand the style of kick to the thigh that most karate players are accustom to using, becuase most boxers lack the leg conditioning. But like before it all comes down to the person in the end and the one who uses his training best will "win".

[StoneSkin]

I would say that boxing is one of the best striking arts. As I dont think that any martial art has taken the basic moves and broken them down hundreds upon thousands of times like boxing has. Now I said the basics, lots of martial arts have been studied emensly.

 

Boxing is about 80% footwork and 20% punching.

 

Most hard hitting boxers do not hit with there arms they use the ground for there power via proper footwork and skeletal alignment. Thats not to say you cant hit hard with using arm power as lots of guys sure can throw a mean wind up fast punch. But like I said most experienced boxers will use the ground for there power.

 

The Moves.

 

Jab,Cross,Hook,Uppercut.

 

4 main punches. Karate and Tae kwon do have a lot more punching/kicking techniques then that.

 

Those main moves are practiced thousands upon thousands of times, boxers are generaly good at those.

 

Physical Training.

 

Boxers GENERALLY do more physical training then other striking arts with exception to Muay Thai and Kickboxing, which are GENERALLY on the same level as Boxing regarding physical fitness.

 

Boxers get punched a lot they get elbowed a lot. Elbowing is the easiest foul to get away with in boxing if your fast hard for the ref to see.

 

Cross Wrote:

Where has in karate etc... the students learn to kick and use more strikes than just punching.... they also learn to strike certain areas and a boxer may not be expecting to be kicked in the knee cap, have his eyes poked, be kicked in the groin or be tackled and pounded.

 

I agree with you on the lower body shots (below the belt) to some extent

 

a boxers legs are going to be tough with all the footwork that comes into play but will not take the same punishment as a Muay Thai practisioners legs.

 

As For the upperbody, the boxer is guarding his vital areas, Trying to extend your arm to poke the boxer in the eye will get the same reaction as if you were to punch him on that side of his face, Neck shots most likely wont work as the boxer will most likely have his chin tucked his arms ups and his shoulders shurgged.

 

All that is if you even hit the boxer as boxers are trained to move around sure they do get hit a lot but they arnt training to get hit they are training to hit, side stepping and dodgeing a blow is more effective as you dont get hit , you lose more energy gettign hit then you do while your dodging, and your opponent loses more energy if they miss, so dodgeing i would say plays a HUGE role in boxing.

 

In my opinion Boxing is great for self defense!

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You make some good points and your right that boxing has the 4 main techniques that are practised always... but in karate, and i know this from experiance, there are a few more than 4 punches and kicks and also open hand strikes but the mechanics for alot of the techniques is very similar meaning training in one technique will benifit others that have similar movements involved... I do realise that most martial artists would not be has well conditioned has a boxer which can work against them... But in saying that most combat situations these days are not your standard toe-to-toe fighting that was common in the old days.. These days most situations are either unexpected attacks which are nearly impossible to defend against... or are ended within the first few seconds and in most cases a person will strike and then escape without further conflict so even if the technique used doesnt hurt the boxer due to superior conditioning it may give the person enough time to leave the area... and of coarse this works the other way also where a boxer may hit an attacker. Once again focus on the person not the style.. if you learn to use what you know effectively then you should be able to defend yourself fairly effectively in most cases..