TJS Posted May 19, 2003 Posted May 19, 2003 Say you took Two styles ..lets say Judo versus jiu jitsu or Wing Chun vs TKD...just as examples You take 50 random practiconers of various rank and experience from each stlye and have them fight under a limited set of rules..and Judo wins 40 out of the 50 matches or WC wins 40 out of the 50 matches.. What would that mean? what would be the conclusion you would draw?
WC-Strayder Posted May 19, 2003 Posted May 19, 2003 That somebody had a bad day, I think........ No, I know where you getting with this TJS, . I know where and what you gonna say, so why don't you just say it. (You will try better than this next time, yes??) The answer, ladys and gentlemen, is that Bjj, MMA and simular is SO mush better than the rest off the pack, coz they win all the time, right??. Let's just stop doing what ever we are doing and join up!!. No use anymore, they are right, off couse they are!!. We must train to compete, we must!. TJS is sooo right, coz if my style can't win 40 out of 50 fights I don't think I can do it anymore........ So where can I sign???. I'm I right or am I not???. This was your intension, wasn't it?. And this is the answer. You se, I don't do this for competition, but for fittness, health and self-defence!. You never gonna see me in UFC, Pride or whatever coz of this and coz I'm to old. I rather do some "oldman" fu instead, leaving UFC and Pride for you, TJS. You have to promice me that we someday will see you in the ring doh, so we can see for your self how fine this art of yours is. You promice me this??. You are gonne get yor a** kicked in UFC, right? You simply won't get up, do you?. No one, I pepeate, no one can or will practice enything else, you will se to that, right. Or is it something else?. Maybe you are not so sure and tries to get sure here?. Is that it, TJS??? If the first lesson was a failure, then you know that skydiving isn't for you!
Tombstone Posted May 19, 2003 Posted May 19, 2003 I have the same opinion as WC-Strayder but that was a little harsh
WC-Strayder Posted May 19, 2003 Posted May 19, 2003 Yes, I'm sorry about that. It was ment ironiq, so if any one of you sees it harsh I poligize for that!!!. If the first lesson was a failure, then you know that skydiving isn't for you!
TJS Posted May 19, 2003 Author Posted May 19, 2003 The answer, ladys and gentlemen, is that Bjj, MMA and simular is SO mush better than the rest off the pack intrestring i didint mention anything about BJJ or MMA.We must train to compete, we must!. Go ahead and quote me where i said that,..reallyYou se, I don't do this for competition, but for fittness, health and self-defence!. You never gonna see me in UFC, Pride or whatever coz of this and coz I'm to old. what does that have to do with anything?TJS. You have to promice me that we someday will see you in the ring doh, so we can see for your self how fine this art of yours is. You promice me this??. You are gonne get yor a** kicked in UFC, right? sure thing..since i always claim to be an awsome fighter I have an idea..how about sticking to the topic? Im not the topic you know. I aksed a simple question, what would the outcome of that mean? You seem to have some pent up frustration issues
King of Fighters Posted May 19, 2003 Posted May 19, 2003 I think it would take a lot more than 50 matches to draw a conclusion. The only way that you really could conclude which style is better is if you took about 200 practitioners for each rank from various schools for a style and had them face off against another. This would only prove that a style is better if there was a major difference between the 2 styles in each rank. But it would be very hard to set up this tournament because there would be 1000's of people from each style, and it still might not prove anything.
WC-Strayder Posted May 19, 2003 Posted May 19, 2003 Again, I'm sorry if I was a little harsh on you!. I did not meen that. You said nothing about BJJ or MMA, but you intended to with that 40 and 50 wing chun people, etc, etc. I don't have no interest in UFC, like I said, i'm too old, but hey, if I only had been any younger I may be fighting there. (Some one have to loose too, if not, nobody wins, right) . My point was that this, the mixed martial arts, is basically for younger men and I have gotten your point about this before, so maybe I was a little to hard and I'm really sorry about that, but a little tired of the style "downwash" all the time. So, friends?. If the first lesson was a failure, then you know that skydiving isn't for you!
JerryLove Posted May 19, 2003 Posted May 19, 2003 The conclusion would be that the art whose randomly chose practitioners won the competition better prepares its practitioners for that competition (weather due to better choice of techniques, or training focus, or motivation). Although this conclusion could be reversed from the reality. It is also possible to say that the winning art is the one with more appeal to people better equipped to win said competition. https://www.clearsilat.com
TJS Posted May 19, 2003 Author Posted May 19, 2003 WC-it's cool. But i really wasant talking about the UFC,pride etc..i was just looking for what everyone would think about this. BTW, how old are you? there are lots of top fighters in the game that are in their late 30's and Heck Dan Severn is still fighting and winning at 49 Jerry-It is also possible to say that the winning art is the one with more appeal to people better equipped to win said competition. good point. I agree with it for the most part with a few exceptions.
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