aznkarateboi Posted May 10, 2003 Posted May 10, 2003 Can anyone give me some information about mantis style shaolin?
Chinwoo-er Posted May 11, 2003 Posted May 11, 2003 Which style of mantis are you asking about ? What kind of information do you want ? History and developement ? Emphasis ? Difference in style ? no. of forms ? Famous people ?
aznkarateboi Posted May 11, 2003 Author Posted May 11, 2003 Hmmm, northern style i guess. Any information would be welcome.
MantisWarrior Posted May 12, 2003 Posted May 12, 2003 the style i take is based on northern 7-star praying mantis. its hard to give general information on the style if u can think of certen questions you would like answered i will try to help. Fighting out of hate brings only disgrace.
paolung Posted May 12, 2003 Posted May 12, 2003 there are several different subsets of tong long... the most common one, and usually the one folks refer to when they say "praying mantis system" is 7 star praying mantis. this is the one originally said it be formulated by Wong Long back in the day. there are a few others as well, such as 8 step praying mantis, and six harmony style, which are branches of the original 7 star system as far as i know. which systems were you wanting to know about, and what information were you seeking? "It is not how much you know but how well you have mastered what you've learnt. When making an assessment of one's martial arts training one should measure the depth rather than the length". - MASTER "General" D. Lacey
aznkarateboi Posted May 12, 2003 Author Posted May 12, 2003 WEll, mostly just some of its history, and its strengths/weaknesses and street effectiveness etc. etc.
paolung Posted May 13, 2003 Posted May 13, 2003 here are a few links to 7 star mantis history. be aware that the specifics of the histories may vary from kwoon to kwoon, but i know that they all trace their lineage back to wong long... http://www.mantiskungfu.com/HistoryofPrayingMantisKungfu.htm http://www.mantiskungfu.bravepages.com/history.htm http://www.kungfuonline.com/info/web/mantis.html perhaps mantiswarrior could tell you more about it than i could, though "It is not how much you know but how well you have mastered what you've learnt. When making an assessment of one's martial arts training one should measure the depth rather than the length". - MASTER "General" D. Lacey
Chinwoo-er Posted May 14, 2003 Posted May 14, 2003 Here..... The style of Preying Mantis is one of the most famous in China. It is said to be founded by Wang Lang of the Shantung area during the fall of the Ming dynasty. That was over three hundred years ago. It is one of the most well known styles in the martial arts world of this day. Wang Lang was once a student of the Shaolin temple. During a trip into the woods one day, he by Chance came upon a fight between a preying mantis and a cricket. The mantis was quick and subtle, it's movements continuous and has great awareness of advance and retreat. Seeing this, Wang Lang was inspired deeply, feeling that if he could imitate the fighting techniques of a praying mantis, he would be able to elevate his own skills. After a long time of observation, he finally invented new twelve moves such as Nian ( Finger hold ), Nian ( stick ), Tie ( close in ), Kwa ( lean ), Diau ( catch ), Jin ( advance ), Bang ( pulse-strike ), Da ( strike ), Gou ( hook ), Lou ( twist ), Cai ( grab ), and Gwa ( lift ). Along with combining the essence of seventeen northern styles, as well as the footwork of a money, he created the style of Preying Mantis. So in a sense, the Preying Mantis style is a product of the strengths of at least eighteen different styles. With its wide variety of moves, it became of the more unique styles in the martial arts worlds. The Mantis style consists of seven long distance and eight short distance techniques. Factors such as long, short, hard, soft, aggression, regressions, directness, deception, form and will at all found within the style. After continuous development, many routines has been established. Each of them are calls for the qualities of intricacy, complexity, agility and having the image of a fighting mantis. Since it's founding, the Mantis Style has had a successor in each generation. Over the year many different branches has emerged: Seven Star Preying Mantis, Plum Blossom Preying Mantis, Six Harmonies Preying Mantis, Taiji Preying Mantis as well as other branches such as Bright Board Preying Mantis Looking from an outsider's point of view, the characteristics of each style of the Mantis styles varies greatly in terms of bodily movements, footwork and techniques. However, as they originated from the same source, their hand techniques are quite similar in the broad sense. For example, in actual combat, each of them focuses on rapid attack and speed. Little movements causes the fast chain reaction of attack with enormous power. Its ability to send numerous blows simultaneously, Change strategy in short notice, accommodation of hands and feet together are but a few of the characteristics shared by the styles of Preying Mantis. The early advancement of the Preying Mantis style was based mainly in the north of China. During the early ages of the Republic, it was brought to the south by masters such as Lou Guang-Yu, Jaw Zhu Xi. Afterwards, it was passed to areas of Hong Kong, Macau, Southeast Asia and Taiwan. Today, even foreign places such as America and Europe have practitioners of this art. Information from University of Hong Kong Chinese martial Arts club hongpage
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