SaiFightsMS Posted May 21, 2003 Posted May 21, 2003 i live in seattle, washington right now.. and i have a very strong interest in practicing shorin-ryu in a combat focused manner. however the art in question does not seem to have much popularity over here. i was just wondering how all of you that practice shorin-ryu wound up founding your teachers [is there some city or state that is a meca of shorin-ryu practitioners because up until i moved to seattle i had never even heard of it before]. I was fortunate to find my first instructor at a local YMCA. There is also a group at a nearby university.
Shorin Ryuu Posted May 21, 2003 Posted May 21, 2003 Is Kobayashi Ryu the Itosu or Matsumura lineage? We (Seibulkan) are the Kyan lineage, and Matsubayashi seems to be acombination of the Kyan asn Itosu lineages. Does your Chinto have the one-legged stances like Shotokan's Gankaku, or the "t" stances like the Kyan Chinto? The Kobayashi lineage goes from Sokon Matsumura to Itosu to Chibana to its current head Nakazato. Not sure exactly what you mean about Chinto, (I haven't seen it performed by other styles) but near the end, we do go through the sequence where we go up on one leg, the other leg raised and the foot placed behind the knee. The hand that is on the same side as the raised foot goes over the knee and the other hand is pulled up and into a fist...Sorry I couldn't explain that very well... Martial Arts Blog:http://bujutsublogger.blogspot.com/
Shorin Ryuu Posted May 22, 2003 Posted May 22, 2003 The way my instructor explained it to me is that its actually a leg grab with the leg that is raised. The hand over the knee could probably be a block, but its probably a grab because of the next movement where the hands chamber to the side. Thats my interpretation, anyway. Thats the great thing about kata, it could mean so many things Martial Arts Blog:http://bujutsublogger.blogspot.com/
Shorin Ryuu Posted May 23, 2003 Posted May 23, 2003 All the empty hand kata we have: Naihanchi I-III Pinan I-V Passai Sho Passai Dai (In some other styles, called Bassai) Chinto (in some other styles, called Gankaku) Kusanku Sho Gorin Kusanku Dai (In some other styles, the kusanku are called kwanku) Gojushiho (Some styles call it useishi) I don't know gojushiho yet, its a nidan form in my system Update on this one...I learned gojushiho today... I noticed we do it a little different than other styles in a couple of parts of the kata though Martial Arts Blog:http://bujutsublogger.blogspot.com/
hobbitbob Posted May 23, 2003 Posted May 23, 2003 Do you guys do the "drunken" steps? There have always been Starkadders at Cold Comfort Farm!
Shorin Ryuu Posted May 23, 2003 Posted May 23, 2003 Not really. I'm assuming you're talking about those ones to the sides. I saw some other style do Gojushiho somewhere on the internet and I saw them take those big drunken steps out to the side. I also saw a video of the head of our style do it and its really downplayed, but you can see it if you know what to look for. Plus his rhythm is a lot different than when you look at him do the other kata. I asked my instructor about it and he says we really don't emphasize it that much in Shorin Ryu. But you can tell there's a definite Naha influence there. I think it was simply borrowed from Goju Ryu (or at least from somewhere in Naha)early on in the development of Shorin Ryu , so throughout the years it has been changed a little. Martial Arts Blog:http://bujutsublogger.blogspot.com/
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