Treebranch Posted May 8, 2003 Share Posted May 8, 2003 If two Martial Artists study the same style, and are of equal skill and the only difference is one of them is bigger and stronger, and the stronger one always wins. What does that say about that Martial Art? What Martial Arts do you think fall into this catagory? "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience.""Lock em out or Knock em out" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ONEfighting Posted May 8, 2003 Share Posted May 8, 2003 Untrue. Size and strength does make a difference, but if the smaller fighter has superior strategy, he will win. Trainwreck Tiemeyerwishes he was R. Lee Ermey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treebranch Posted May 8, 2003 Author Share Posted May 8, 2003 No, I think you misunderstood. Hypothetically speaking if the small fighter and the big fighter were of the same exact skill, and the big one wins, what does that say about that Martial Art? For example there is a reason for weight classes in competition fighting, like boxing, Why? Does size matter in certain styles of Martial Arts? "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience.""Lock em out or Knock em out" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyS Posted May 8, 2003 Share Posted May 8, 2003 Size matters in all styles of martial arts, especially if people are of the exact skill level. Here's some reasons why: 1) a bigger person will have more mass behind their punches. 2) A bigger person can take more shots from a smaller person, but not vice versa. 3) A smaller person will tire more quickly than a larger stronger person if they are grappling. To say it's only limited to certain arts is ridiculous. Do you really think a small guy, no matter what their skill level, could compete against Lennox Lewis, 6'5" and 250lbs ? BJJ - Black Belt under John Will (Machado)Shootfighting - 3rd Degree Black BeltTKD - Black Belt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treebranch Posted May 8, 2003 Author Share Posted May 8, 2003 So I should get bigger to be better? Tyson fought some giants, and won. "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience.""Lock em out or Knock em out" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyS Posted May 8, 2003 Share Posted May 8, 2003 Ah, but were those people of exactly the same skill as Tyson ? I doubt it. Tyson had great defensive and offensive skills, as well as a great strategy. A small guy with greater skill can beat a larger, less-skilled opponent. Especially if the smaller fighter makes his opponent play his game. The Gracies are great examples of this. However, if the skill levels are close, then size will definately matter - as Royler Gracie found out when he grappled Mario Sperry. BJJ - Black Belt under John Will (Machado)Shootfighting - 3rd Degree Black BeltTKD - Black Belt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treebranch Posted May 8, 2003 Author Share Posted May 8, 2003 All I know is that Hoyce would have lost against Kimo if it were on the street. That guy less skill or not was throwing Hoyce around like a rag doll. If you replaced the canvas with pavement Kimo would have destroyed him. "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience.""Lock em out or Knock em out" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyS Posted May 8, 2003 Share Posted May 8, 2003 You know this how ? Oh, you mean you think this ? I don't recall Royce being thrown on his head. BTW, those floors are not padded. They are the same as a boxing ring i.e. wooden floor covered by canvas, so explain why it would be any different. Please also explain the point of your post. BJJ - Black Belt under John Will (Machado)Shootfighting - 3rd Degree Black BeltTKD - Black Belt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treebranch Posted May 8, 2003 Author Share Posted May 8, 2003 I have the fight on tape, I've watched it several times. It was UFC 5 or 6 the early fights. Pavement is harder than a ring, yes? I take it, you never watched this fight. "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience.""Lock em out or Knock em out" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyS Posted May 8, 2003 Share Posted May 8, 2003 I did watch the fight. I watched it when it first happened and since then. You're guessing and if the fight had been on the street then Royce would have broken Kimo's arm. That's what I know. What's your point though and how is it relevant to the title of the post ? BJJ - Black Belt under John Will (Machado)Shootfighting - 3rd Degree Black BeltTKD - Black Belt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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