SaiFightsMS Posted May 7, 2003 Posted May 7, 2003 Okay now you are getting into a "personal" style versus a "school type" style. Is that the key to JKD?
Shorin Ryuu Posted May 21, 2003 Posted May 21, 2003 you lot are misunderstanding. Bruce's style was the best. not JKD, but his individual style that had no gaps that could be used in all situations. his personal JKD may not have been the best it would have been greta if he had lived to develop it but he wouldnt have. i belive in an ideal Bruce Lee style people would come to learn this 'ultimate' martial art. the instructors would asses every student individualy and each would learn in a way a different martial art, one student would devote 3 times as much time to kicks as another. they would develop each students own personal martial art and allow him/her to blossom. Forgive me if I am mistaken, it has been a while since I've read up on Bruce Lee. For all I know, I could be totally wrong on this one... But wouldn't Bruce Lee frown on a student focusing entirely too much on one aspect of fighting? Shouldn't you be like water that can take any shape? I thought he would've been more of a generalist, although intensely focused on whatever technique. Maybe generalist is a bad word. Would unrestricted be better? Unless of course you mean simply that each individual would develop one skill above others that their bodies are "naturally" good at. Of course this again may develop an unhealthy reliance upon that skill. Let me know what you think please. Martial Arts Blog:http://bujutsublogger.blogspot.com/
Kaju_influenced Posted May 21, 2003 Posted May 21, 2003 agree with TreeBranch,bruce was a great martial artist,but his MA isnt ''perfect'',it has its weaknesses like all martial arts.If bruce was still here,maybe he would have developed it more. I was training with sifu dan inosanto last year and he put it best, JKD is not at all a style or a MA it is a concept. IMO karate gung fu,ect.... wtv it is, the point of the story is if we continue to look at a MA or that MA we will miss the actually MA in martial arts if u can comprehend that what i mean is that if u take for instance a karate style and your teacher limits you to ur style or even if u limit yourself ur missing the point,JKD is a concept a concept from with we grow from not like a set style that we bind ourselfs too u c Bruce was the type of person that if u were scared of something he would be like "well look at it this way...." so its a matter of growth and not being stagnant with what u do. Bruce was great at what he did for this reason, as far as choosing i would say JKD for the reason it will help u rid urself of thatclassical mess alot of MA's trouble themselfs with or more important our preconceived fixed notions. JKD was set to aid in ones growth to honestly and truly expressing oneself without lying to oneself as Bruce put it.... BRUCE LEE-1940-1973-Rest in peace- "Sweat more in the dojo,bleed less in the street"Kajukenbo fighters axiom.
Treebranch Posted May 28, 2003 Posted May 28, 2003 I think Bruce Lee was great and all, but there are alot of MA that he hadn't looked at yet. Some teach many ryu within itself, and gives you room to develop they you want to. I think he had a good philosphy about MA, but it may not suit everyone. You have to choose what feels right to you as an individual. "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience.""Lock em out or Knock em out"
Tamojin Posted May 30, 2003 Posted May 30, 2003 I don't think JKD is an art - its a way of thinking. I don't think you can just start taking JKD - remember Bruce had all that wing chun background among others before he synthesized all that he knew into JKD. Its biys and pieces of other martial arts. Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless--like water.
Hapkidodude Posted June 1, 2003 Posted June 1, 2003 In JKD we train in different ranges. Grappling, Boxing/Kickboxing, Kali/Eskrima, Wing Chun etc. The idea is to be able to flow from one range to the next . Stand up to close in clinching to ground fighting and anywhere in between. The style is not important. Once you have trained all of these techniques for a while you start to develop you own style or your own Jeet Kune Do. This is the beauty of training out side of a traditional style. Most of the time in sparring, you dont try a particular style so to speak. But flashes of styles are evident. Some techniques work for you and some dont. The key is in the training. Train alot and the rest will take care of itself. BrettThe Hand is quicker than the eye!
Tamojin Posted June 1, 2003 Posted June 1, 2003 That makes a lot of sense!!! Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless--like water.
Tamojin Posted June 1, 2003 Posted June 1, 2003 Training is often over looked these days - it can't be over emphasized!! Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless--like water.
broomhilda000 Posted June 17, 2003 Posted June 17, 2003 I don't think Jeet Kune Do is the greatest Martial Arts ever created. I think if he lived longer to really develop it, then maybe that claim could be made. I think MA's created during real warring periods(pre-firearm) are the most effective, they had to use their skills to survive. There is no better teacher than the battle field. I saw some films where Bruce was fighting, and he was really fast, but I think someone bigger and stronger with grappling skills could of destroyed him. What does it matter if Bruce would have lost? He was not claiming to be the best but TRYING to be the best Be as a tranquil pool of water in the woods. Calm, collected, reflecting on its surface all that is around it. Make your own mind such a quiet mirror reflecting the mind of the opponent. Even as your partner's impulse to attack passes through his mind it should be reflected in you.The safest battle is the one that is never fought
Treebranch Posted June 17, 2003 Posted June 17, 2003 broomhilda000 said What does it matter if Bruce would have lost? He was not claiming to be the best but TRYING to be the best I never said Bruce claimed he was the best, but some fans claim he was the best. I think it's great to try to be the best at something, he was the best movie martial artist of his time. JKD is not the best MA, there is no Best MA. The word Best ( One that surpasses all others ) is a word that has a temporary use, it's an opinion not a fact. There is always someone better, but even that person is not the best. "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience.""Lock em out or Knock em out"
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