BoxerScott Posted April 15, 2003 Posted April 15, 2003 I am looking for links to real case studies/tests done reputable sources that evalutate and list the most effecitve martial arts styles (I know there out there but I can't find any). I think someone mention one done by the police force? Anyone know where thats at, or any others? Thanks... -Boxer ScottBoxingIwama Aikido
Ryan Posted April 15, 2003 Posted April 15, 2003 *sigh* I have to agree. Good luck finding anything like that which is, in fact, reputable. RyanTKD/JJJ
BoxerScott Posted April 15, 2003 Author Posted April 15, 2003 *sigh* Either contribute or don't reply. I'm not asking for anyone's personal opinions, I am asking for proven tests done. Why? Not because I want to take 'the best martial arts style in the world!!!!1!11!' but because I'm writing an article and need sources to back up fact. Any help would be appreciated, but if your going to post to ridicule then don't reply.Good luck finding anything like that which is, in fact, reputable.I know, thats why I'm asking you guys. If it were easy then I would'nt need help. I have heard that different tests were done (by police forces and the like), I am trying to find info like that. Thanks... -Boxer ScottBoxingIwama Aikido
jmy77 Posted April 15, 2003 Posted April 15, 2003 You need to set parameters. Top Ten MA styles for sport? For Law Enforcement? For Self Defense? And also define what in the above catergory would make an art effective or ineffective.... Since I have only taken Wrestling and am now in Kenpo, I don't really feel I can help. You would have to find someone who has trained in many arts and can be objective in ranking them within your setof guidelines. Also there are some many styles and hybrid styles you would not be able to fairly include them all. Good Luck with your research. "Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft." - Pres. Theodore Roosevelt "You don't have to like it, you just have to do it." - Captain Richard Marcinko, USN, Ret."Do more than what is required of you." - General George S. Patton"If you have to step on someone else to stand tall, then you truely are a small person." - ?
Ryan Posted April 15, 2003 Posted April 15, 2003 Well, I dont think this is really what youre looking for, but you might want to look at https://www.aiminghigh.org. Its a martial arts publication that may at least point you to something useful. I just dont think there is any real data to be had. Subjectivity is inevitable. RyanTKD/JJJ
karate_woman Posted April 15, 2003 Posted April 15, 2003 Good luck with your research. I suspect that if there was one art that was deemed the most effective by the police, then there wouldn't be so many "police instructors" of varying styles, but if you come across something that isn't just a sales gimick it'd be great to see. The journey of a thousand miles begins with one step. -Lao-Tse
Ghost Posted April 15, 2003 Posted April 15, 2003 Not in any order but will be made up of Boxing, BJJ, Thai boxing, kick boxing, Krav Maga, Savat, Jui Jitsu, Wing Chun, JKD(if you call it a system), shootfighting(if you call it a system). Sure there are a few more but dont come to mind at the moment.
tommarker Posted April 15, 2003 Posted April 15, 2003 Boxerscott: your question is unfortunately bogus, although that doesn't mean you are for trying to answer it. you follow? A lot of us have heard this question asked in one vein or another which leads to the: Short answer: The top martial art as recognized by a police study may only be the cheapest, fastest to learn, or most litigation friendly. It may or may not be "effective" Long Answer: Any research done by police departments to find "the most effective martial art" are going to be very specific to the area of law enforcement, fits into the use of force continuum, minimizes litigation, and is quickly and easily taught. Whatever empty handed tactics are taught to law enforcement officers (leo from now on) are taught in addition to use of pepper spray, handcuffs, batons, handguns, and maybe even shotguns. Most empty handed techniques are going to be used for a certain spectrum of encounters. When it gets too thick, they have to move up the use of force continuum. This means if they can't contain a suspect with a lock, it's time for OC and backup. Pull a knife on an officer, he will not do some fancy aikido move. He'll shoot. When an officer is going empty handed (usually) it will be to contain and control. Contrast this to the military, who in most operations will start with the firearms, and (hopefully not have to) work down to empty handed combat. When someone in a wartime situation is fighting empty handed, he/she is looking to kill. Now contrast that to average Joe. Average Joe doesn't carry the full range of tools a police officer does. He's not held back by restrictions on usage of force that are handed down by department guidelines. Chances are also much more likely that he is not licensed to carry a firearm/knife/baton/whatever and will have to use his empty handed techniques to potentially face a variety of challenges from pushy panhandlers to armed agressor. I'm no longer posting here. Adios.
Kensai Posted April 15, 2003 Posted April 15, 2003 Ki Aikido Yoshinkan Aikido Aikikai Aikido Yosekai Aikido Shin Shin Toitsu Aikido Tomiki Aikido Iwama Aikido Aiki Judo Aikijujutsu. Oh and all those other Martial arts that everyone likes.
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