Capoeira and BJJ... any skirmishes?

[omnifinite]

Do the Capoeira and BJJ guys ever go at it in Brazil? Competitions of some sort? Or possibly even the type of feud with Luta Livre mentioned here: http://www.karateforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=71926 ? What sorts of results are common? Or uncommon? Or is Capoeira seen more as a part of the culture and something to be revered whether used specifically for combat or not (like a traditional art might be seen in another country)?

 

It just occured to me that I never hear anything about their involvement with each other, so I'm curious.

[TJS]

honestly There would be no point ...Chute Box(Muay Thai/BJJ training) had a challange match against Capoeira in Brazil..the result was every single capoeria guy getting brutally beaten and knocked out in the first round..so I dont think they had to use much BJJ.

[Terry Bogard]

not to diss capoeira but it cant really compete with other martial arts, its more of a fighting game, and a work out

[Kaju_influenced]

To inform or should i say educate some ppl about capoeira, was because MA was illegal and they had to diguise it from the portuguese slave masters. Yes it is very similar to a dance but has a unique fighting aspect that comes with it. I studied capoeira regional the more combatant out of the bunch, i can tell u one thing i kinda agree with most of u for that part in the who would beat who ina real fight but when u get hit with a armada or a pontera from one of the masters i think u might understand the power that comes with a good practitioner of capoeira. In the old days they would have street rodas (fights) and the master that began the circle(Mestre Bimba) was unbeatable and knowone was able to touch him

 

TJS said

honestly There would be no point ...Chute Box(Muay Thai/BJJ training) had a challange match against Capoeira in Brazil..the result was every single capoeria guy getting brutally beaten and knocked out in the first round..so I dont think they had to use much BJJ

 

Not that i dont beleive u but where can i see this fight u speak of?

 

And one thing foresure i dont think everyone of them were beat, i have done several rodas and i have seen ppl knock out unconcious due to some heavy blows by kicks or flips ect... Im not trying to defend the art however if u have not done any of it or have not experinced a real roda then i beleive its hard to make some assumptions about any styles.IMO

 

N e ways have fun training and always work hard at it!

[TJS]

here is a link to the results of Chute Box vs Capoeria, It dosent have a ton of information on it because it took place a while back but here it is-

 

http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/eventinfo.cfm?eventid=487

[Terry Bogard]

i was not saying it isnt effective, i was talking about other martial arts, it would be great protection on the street, freak the person out wondering what your doing next, and then you do that hand stand kick thing (one hand holds you up while both feet kick

[Treebranch]

I don't know, but I think BJJ would be more practical.

[theswarm]

you learn amazing things in capoeira

 

i take both capoeira and karate now and capoeira teaches you some really really great movement and evasion that as someone that's been doing karate I really enjoy what it's doing for my karate. My timing and ability to see my opponent rhythmically has improved and i know this sounds far fetched but that's after one capoeira lesson. The only thing I can actually remember is ginga - and that kick that hooks and sweeps, and I haven't quite managed to work out how to do that kick where you spin around and heel kick them in the head/chest

[Anzie]

Capoeira would be really good for showoff (that's a good thing) and for the fun aspect of training. It's very nice to look at. But it won't work as good as Eddy Gordo and Christie make it work. I've never seen it in the ring though, would be cool.

[Ironberg]

Capoeira would be really good for showoff (that's a good thing) and for the fun aspect of training. It's very nice to look at. But it won't work as good as Eddy Gordo and Christie make it work. I've never seen it in the ring though, would be cool.

 

Let's hope everybody at this forum has played Tekken at somepoint in their life .

 

Anyway, I heard somewhere that Capeoria is being mixed with alot of TKD, and a bunch of other stuff to make some cheesy thing called "Extreme Martial Arts" primarily to add a dimension to extreme sports. Very acrobatic and high flying, and stresses dynamic movement.

 

Yep, definately a show off. Bruce Lee probably said it best when he said that fighting in its most basic form is ugly.