Terry Bogard Posted April 14, 2003 Posted April 14, 2003 i dont think Judo would help you, i could tell you some powerful wrestling take downs, crane their neck and sweep out their ankle with your hand and stick your knee out and they will fall on it, or if they punch you put that hand on the shoulder of you that they punched with (if they punch with right put the hand on right shoulder of you) and then pick up the leg opposite the side that the punch with and you have them laying on your back and shoulders, you can just drop them or something or do an F-5 (pro wrestling move, very painful) and then use your BJJ stuff
1ONEfighting Posted April 22, 2003 Posted April 22, 2003 BJJ itself loses 70% of its techniques when you take away the gi, yet the techniques that are left work quite well. It is the same situation with Judo. Trainwreck Tiemeyerwishes he was R. Lee Ermey.
Venezolano Posted April 22, 2003 Author Posted April 22, 2003 BJJ itself loses 70% of its techniques when you take away the gi, yet the techniques that are left work quite well. It is the same situation with Judo. LOL! it seems like you don't know very well BJJ... Valencia - Venezuela.
Kensai Posted April 22, 2003 Posted April 22, 2003 I think Judo would definately help your stand up game and expand on the mass of BJJ ground techniques.
LOILOI44 Posted April 23, 2003 Posted April 23, 2003 A little known fact is that Jigoro Kano the creator of Judo used to allow his students to train in short Gi's. They had no sleeves and short pants. With the exception of a few chokes and maybe one or two throws, the majority of Judo techniques can be used with out a gi. As far as ranks go, the Kodokan (the school where Judo was created and now governing body for Judo) recognizes 6 kyu (non black belt) ranks and 10 dan (black belt) ranks. You will find different schools do their rank structure differently. It is usually white, yellow, green, brown, and black. Higher dan ranks are represented by red and white, and red belts. Often blue and purple belts will be used in kyu ranks. Venezolano, understand something also BJJ is descended from Judo. A good school should stress equally Nage Waza (throwing techniques) and Ne Waza (ground techniques.) You shouldn't feel like a fish out of water. Your question about the time it takes to become proficient...well that basically is on you. Provided that you go to a competant instructor, it's all about how hard you work. You have a background in BJJ that will only help you. Also leg locks are not legal in Judo. Hope this helps.
Venezolano Posted April 23, 2003 Author Posted April 23, 2003 Thanks LOILOI44 it did but by what i've seen, in the judo club i went to, they focuses more in throws, when i went i didn't see any ne-waza... althought i'm not interested in ne-waza because i train BJJ for ground Valencia - Venezuela.
LOILOI44 Posted April 27, 2003 Posted April 27, 2003 alot of judo throws can be adapted to suite Gi less fights but honetly i dont think anyone has better takedowns than wrestling I have heard stories about Wrestler with Zero judo experience entering and winning Judo torunament by smaling them all with double legs. TJS which tournament was this and where did you hear this story? It sounds like an urban myth to me. I'm not saying a wrestler with no Judo experience couldn't fare well, but I doubt he can win a major tournament unless he was playing only white belts. There are major differences between Judo and wrestling. I have wrestled (collegiate, greco-roman, and freestyle) and I have played Judo. It's my feeling that wrestling will only go so far on the Judo mat. In wrestling, you only require 1 second to pin somebody. In Judo you need 30 seconds. That is a huge difference. Also there are no submissions in wrestling. I'd like some more details about this story please.[/b]
kenpo4life Posted May 5, 2003 Posted May 5, 2003 Guys, I think that the moves that people practice in the dojo DO work, but only in the appropriate context. If the guys is wearing a thin long sleeve for example, dont try to use it to throw. Use it to add momentum to a foot sweep or leg reap. That in my opinion is the most overlooked aspect of judo If my survival means your total destruction, then so be it.
SevenStar Posted May 9, 2003 Posted May 9, 2003 i dont think Judo would help you, i could tell you some powerful wrestling take downs, crane their neck and sweep out their ankle with your hand and stick your knee out and they will fall on it, or if they punch you put that hand on the shoulder of you that they punched with (if they punch with right put the hand on right shoulder of you) and then pick up the leg opposite the side that the punch with and you have them laying on your back and shoulders, you can just drop them or something or do an F-5 (pro wrestling move, very painful) and then use your BJJ stuff I would say that you're not to familiar with judo
SevenStar Posted May 9, 2003 Posted May 9, 2003 Thanks LOILOI44 it did but by what i've seen, in the judo club i went to, they focuses more in throws, when i went i didn't see any ne-waza... althought i'm not interested in ne-waza because i train BJJ for ground that will vary from club to club - some schools like ne waza and others don't...
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